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|0005122||opensim||[REGION] OpenSim Core||public||2010-10-22 15:25||2014-03-06 14:46|
|Product Version||master (dev code)|
|Target Version||Fixed in Version||master (dev code)|
|Summary||0005122: Objects such as avatar hair still appears in center hud position|
|Description||Issue still occuring even with the new update just released on 01/17/2011. Long hair and sometimes other objects (but usually hair attaches itself to the center HUD position. Often the hair is so large you cannot use the viewer. Dont try to edit the hair to remove it because that usually causes an immediate crash.|
I cleared cache, tried many different viewers and all 3 had the hair there. Only way to get rid of it is to remove ALL huds.
This is still happening to many people and has been happening for a very long time. There appears to be no way around the problem other than to remove all HUDS and leave them off for good, and this still won't prevent invisible hair from attaching itself to the center HUD position as I found out today.
|Tags||No tags attached.|
|Git Revision or version number||9f7b37b|
|Run Mode||Grid (Multiple Regions per Sim)|
|Environment||.NET / Windows32, .NET / Windows64|
|Attached Files|| r14257-spurious-central-hud-position-attachment.jpg [^] (190,948 bytes) 2010-10-25 08:33
faulty-central-hud-attachment-error.jpg [^] (262,296 bytes) 2010-10-26 09:22
2012-10-13-OpenSim-0.7.5-OSGrid-Vue-6400-Central-HUD.jpg [^] (195,533 bytes) 2012-10-13 03:36
edited on: 2011-01-22 07:08
After logging in and out, this problem went away after about 4 hours without doing anything. Have since talked to a number of people here that had this same problem, and it does happen again at random times, mostly when moving from one sim to another.
|I also have that problem when I log in with a hud attached to the center. I did move that hud to side using the editing window. Beside the hud I see a strange object in the center. This disappear when I detach and reattach the hud.|
|There definitively is a new bug in 0.7|
|This is a very old bug, in that is already existed in early 0.6 versions. It's partially caused by child prims with no root prims, and partially there are real dropped and leftover attachments.|
edited on: 2010-10-25 08:05
Thats useful to know melanie. I wonder if there is a good clean up method?
I have seen this in various setups since 0.7 was intrroduced but have not pinned down exactly when it occurs. I have seen it on Mars Sim, OSGrid since it went to 0.7 (but not before), etc. but not on our own Openvue grid.
It seems to be the hair or I am wearing on my avatar, or sometimes one prim from that. Also you canot right click and detach it from the HUID, though you can attach another items to the hufrom inventory (like a new prim youjust created) and that replaces the item.
I think its always the central middle of the screen HID osition hat doe sthis in all the cases I have seen seince the 0.7.0 beta test period.
I wonder if this could be caused by Second Inventory/Stored Inventory when it fails to upload some multi-prim items. As I believe that uses a process of attaching items durig uopload in some way.
I am seeimg tghis a lot with a hair attachment on OS Grid 0.7.1 for exmaple... and I know I had a failed upload via Second Inventory for such an item. Still not sure how to get rid of it. When I attach something in lower left HUD position the hair appears in middle HUD position. Using right click, it can be edited but not "detached". I made it "temporary" using the edit/build tick bioxes to see if that would make it go away. And it has done for now at least.
|I see this displaying bug with objects I did create in OSGrid. I did not use Second Inventory for these objects having this issue. And I did use these attachments for over a year without any problems, using OpenSim 0.6.9. But now with OpenSim 0.7 I always see this happening after logging in with worn HUD attachments. After detaching and reattaching all looks OK again.|
|Many of these same ghost attachments or ghost hud attachment prims also appear at 0,0,0 in the region.|
edited on: 2012-10-15 12:34
On OSGrid, as I crossed across several sandboxes an object appeared in central HFD position and the object changed at the region boundary!. The object is not hair, or a part of hair, not one of mine, is not in my inventory, has never been worn or attached to a HUD position by me etc. Its also owned by someone else who clearly has a sandbox nearby judging by the same "Cornflakes" and the region nearby called "Sandbox Cornflakes"). I looked near 0,0 corner of the sandbox and could not see any visible object there.
See attached image ... faulty-central-hud-attachment-error.jpg
Note image is of an object in central HUD atttachment, not in the 3D space.
Click on these ghost hud prims causes client viewers to crash.
Repro in OSgrid: LBSA Plaza, Wright Plaza using Hippo, Imprudence, and Phoenix viewers.
These ghost hud prims often freshly appear on the hud, upon teleporting into a different sim.
Some of these prims are visible but mostly, they are invisible.
Because of the risk of crash due to this bug, we are now all afraid to click on anything inworld or on the hud.
|This bug also occurs in Linden Labs viewers 1.23 and 2.x Mesh Beta|
H .. i just encountered this error the 5th time ..
this time on a SIm thatis running XP PRo 32 bit SP 3 ..
After i received "my" hair on the HUD .. the console windows
spews out / gets flooded with red lines
- Getitem 0000.00000.0000.000
- Getitem 0000.00000.0000.000
I slso crash when try to detach it .. Viewer : Imprudence 1.3 and 1.4 Exp
hope this helps somehow
edited on: 2010-10-30 01:11
The problem with hair in the middle of the screen seems conected to the use of HUDS like the AO-HUDS. Turn off the AO and the big hair on the middle of the screen will disapper
The problem doesnt show up if anything is attached wiid "Attach to" instead of "Attach to Hud"´. This is a solution to use with AO to activate the animations but the HUD functions will disapper - of course.
Note that I am not using an AO when the problems occur with spurious middle position HUD attachments appearing.
The HUD attachment I had was a simple one prim sphere in the left bottom attachment position running a single script (e.g. avatar radar or a script that reports the sim/region x,y position only).
Additional note .. when i TP away from that specific Sim and e.g. Home to mine the Attchment is gone .. ater TPing back to the sim where it happend its immediatly reattached ..
When i disable my AO (some kind of ZHAO-II) it is gone
putting the AO back on .. its there
my friend uses some AO called male A= mit Anis by Tomm Remedy from the Germania 2 sim ..
|This issue is still there and happens just as often as before, even after the 11/09/2010 update that was specifically supposed to fix this problem.|
|Problem still happening now even after the 11/18/2010 Release.|
edited on: 2010-12-12 21:27
Tested this 12 Dec 2010.
This bug is still exists in recent versions of OpenSim 0.7.1
Bug: Hair and other peoples' avatar attachments appear on my hud when I wear any hud.
Workaround: Removal of all huds cures problem temporarily, however it also prevents use of the HUD!
Viewers tested with: Imprudence and Phoenix. Result: Same bug on both viewers.
Reproduced this bug in OSgrid regions:
OpenSim 0.7.1 Dev 8f1a79420be062ea59b3c04aacb439fb57713ac7 - 14371 (Unix/Mono)
OpenSim 0.7.1 Dev 8f1a7942 in OSgrid, Lani region
OpenSim 0.7.1 Dev 8f1a7942 in OSgrid, Samsara region.
OpenSim 0.7.1 Dev OSgrid 0.7.1 (Dev) ae9c4a4: 2010-11-09 (Win/.NET) in OSgrid, KaladanSpace region
Lbsa Plaza region of OSgrid
|Problem still happening with latest release from 12/14/2010. Sometimes the item on the screen is so large, the viewer is unusable.|
can confirm this issue for lates osgrid version from 12/14/2010.
on hippo + imprudence .. like written before if i TP away from that
sim the attachment is gone but TPing back it is again there ..
clearing viewer chache does not help
restarting the affected regions -> helps °
.. and btw. this mantis is still unassigned
|Problem still occuring even with latest v0.7.1 01/17/2011 release.|
Discovered todat that even with ALL huds removed, invisible hair was still in the center HUD position on the screen. I was able to right click on it and see the outline of the particular hair prim I clicked on, but when I selected edit, all options were grayed out. Option to remove did not appear in the right click menu and items does not appear in my list of worn items.
This is the first time I've hair in the center hud position without any other HUDs attached, and this is the first time I've found that clicking on it doesnt make the viewer crash, and this is the first time I've found invisible hair in the center HUD position. At any rate, this problem is still there and has been there for a very very long time.
|Is this still an issue with current git master?|
|I have not seen HUD hair, ghost HUDs or HUDs dropped at 0,0,0, nor foxtails of death, in ages.|
edited on: 2012-01-22 15:53
Seems this still happens..
[15:38] Rip Oxbar: dan why do i have someones hair style on my hud?
happened in lbsa plaza on osgrid
|I reported this originally, but have not seen it in a few months now. Apparently it is still happening to some people, but it may be on sims that have not updated opensim in a while.|
|Yes, this old issue that seems to have been fixed in 2011, seems to have come back in 0.7.3.|
|I experienced this bug this week with 7.4 in OSGrid at two different sims when trying to attach a zhao ao. Both sims are up to date and well maintained.|
|Is this bug still occurring? Further fixes have been made for this problem which were in the final release of OpenSimulator 0.7.4|
|I originally reported this bug, but I have not seen it in a while. I do recall maybe a month or so ago, I saw hair flash on the screen for a few seconds then it went away, but thats been the extent of it for me. Looks like Jamie may be the last one to report seeing this so maybe he can provide more recent feedback.|
edited on: 2012-10-15 12:38
Yes Justin, I am seeing this on some of our add on OSGrid regions which are running 0.7.5 dev last packaged OSGrid lease from about a week ago and I am using latest LL and Firestorm viewers. It is a female pink pony tail hair attachment smack in the middle HUD position usually and I see no way to remove it, it cannot simply be detached, and does not show as a worn item anywhere. I sometimes also see one part of the ZHAO AO showing in this centre HUD position, and in that case it goes away if you remove the AO (which has two arts, a menu and an on-off button) from its usual HUD position (which for me was bottom right).
The regions were also freshly created in a new MYSQL data base instance of OpenSim.exe by dumping the previous SQLite version via a save OAR and so its not just a gradual build up of rubbish in the region data base I hope.
Like Lani, I had not seen the problem for a while, but recently started to see it again. Possibly on HG travels though, so I tended to assume it was old code too.
Now I know others may still have the problem I will try to take note of the circumstances and location it occurs in, so others can visit and see if it occurs for them.
edited on: 2012-10-15 12:40
I just did some tests... the problem occurs for example on Vue-6400 which is an add-on region to OSGrid using the standard OSGrid most recent release...
OSgrid OpenSimulator 0.7.5.dev.4e9509d 09-28-2012 built from OpenSimulator git hash : 4e9509dafa016afd11674008c2e315f36ba1d698 : [r/20546]
The only significant changes to the standard OpenSim.ini and GridCommon.ini are to use MySQL rather than the default SQLite. But the problems happened when we used SQLite as well, so that is not significant.
The hair object in the central HUD seems to be owned by my main avatar which is the region owner, but that is likely because it was built from an OAR save on an earlier SQLite setup and loaded about 4 weeks ago to set up a fresh MySQL set of Vue OS-Grid regions.
It does not occur on every avatar though. I tried four test avatars and on two the pink hair piece shows up in the central HUD position, and on two it did not.
I then realised the two it showed up on has some HUDs in place, the other two did not. Suspecting the Zhao HUD the two avatars had in place I removed that but it made no difference on relogging. So I removed the final HUD item (a simple avatar detector) the avatars had attached and relogged, and the pink hair item was not present. I reattached the avatar detector and relogged and the pink hair piece appears again.
Attaching the single prim avatar detector to a HUD position shows the (unrelated) pink hair piece. I teleported the avatar to a different region and the avatar detector HUD was in place but the pink hair item had gone. Move back to Vue-6400 and it appears again.
More perversely, I remade the single prim avatar detector from scratch as a new prim, and added a new script inside it. Attached that again as a HUD and then went to Vue-6400 and the pink hair still reappears.
I now realise that the pink hair comes back up if ANY of the two attachments is still on and its not specifically related to the Zhao AO or the avatar detetctor. Last one taken off or re-attached in any order causes the pink hair hair to disappear and reappear in the central HUD position
Hope this more detailed description of the symptoms helps. I would be happy to run any suggested diagnostics in the OpenSim.exe console if that helps.
I think the reason I am not seeing this anymore is because I am using the animation overrider built into the browser and I no longer use a HUD. I recall others saying that this issue only happened to them when they were wearing a hud and that seems to be true based on my results. It looks like this issue is sometimes still there when you wear a hud.
|I have not seen this happen in a very long time and I have been wearing a HUD purposely to try to make this happen again. If the problem resurfaces, we can reopen this mantis or create a new one.|
|2010-10-22 15:25||kenvc||New Issue|
|2010-10-22 15:25||kenvc||Git Revision||=> 04743974-fa45-4b7c-9822-2157ac338d16|
|2010-10-22 15:25||kenvc||SVN Revision||=> 0|
|2010-10-22 15:25||kenvc||Run Mode||=> Grid (Multiple Regions per Sim)|
|2010-10-22 15:25||kenvc||Physics Engine||=> ODE|
|2010-10-22 15:25||kenvc||Environment||=> .NET / Windows64|
|2010-10-22 15:25||kenvc||Mono Version||=> None|
|2010-10-22 21:46||kenvc||Note Added: 0017079|
|2010-10-23 01:15||Snoopy||Note Added: 0017082|
|2010-10-23 01:15||Snoopy||Note Added: 0017083|
|2010-10-23 01:15||Snoopy||Status||new => acknowledged|
|2010-10-23 01:33||melanie||Note Added: 0017084|
|2010-10-23 02:37||aiaustin||Note Added: 0017085|
|2010-10-25 08:05||aiaustin||Note Edited: 0017085|
|2010-10-25 08:08||aiaustin||Note Added: 0017115|
|2010-10-25 08:20||Snoopy||Note Added: 0017116|
|2010-10-25 08:31||aiaustin||Summary||v0.7.1 avitar hair appears in center hud position if any huds are attached => v0.7.1 Avatar hair appears in center hud position if any huds are attached|
|2010-10-25 08:33||aiaustin||File Added: r14257-spurious-central-hud-position-attachment.jpg|
|2010-10-25 16:30||LaniGlobal||Note Added: 0017121|
|2010-10-26 09:22||aiaustin||Note Added: 0017135|
|2010-10-26 09:22||aiaustin||File Added: faulty-central-hud-attachment-error.jpg|
|2010-10-26 09:24||aiaustin||SVN Revision||0 => 14257|
|2010-10-26 09:24||aiaustin||Environment||.NET / Windows64 => .NET / Windows32, .NET / Windows64|
|2010-10-26 09:24||aiaustin||Priority||normal => high|
|2010-10-26 09:24||aiaustin||Summary||v0.7.1 Avatar hair appears in center hud position if any huds are attached => v0.7.1 Objects or Attachments such as avatar hair appears in center hud position|
|2010-10-26 09:24||aiaustin||Description Updated|
|2010-10-26 09:25||aiaustin||Note Edited: 0017135|
|2010-10-28 21:07||LaniGlobal||Note Added: 0017165|
|2010-10-29 01:38||aiaustin||Note Added: 0017168|
|2010-10-29 14:06||WordfromtheWise||Note Added: 0017173|
|2010-10-30 00:54||Kim||Note Added: 0017179|
|2010-10-30 00:57||Kim||Note Edited: 0017179|
|2010-10-30 01:03||Kim||Note Edited: 0017179|
|2010-10-30 01:04||Kim||Note Edited: 0017179|
|2010-10-30 01:11||Kim||Note Edited: 0017179|
|2010-10-30 01:11||Kim||Note Edited: 0017179|
|2010-10-30 02:20||aiaustin||Note Added: 0017180|
|2010-10-30 02:35||WordfromtheWise||Note Added: 0017181|
|2010-11-10 08:12||kenvc||Git Revision||04743974-fa45-4b7c-9822-2157ac338d16 => ae9c4a4d118e126b4f849bbfed112d0971459339|
|2010-11-10 08:12||kenvc||SVN Revision||14257 =>|
|2010-11-10 08:12||kenvc||Note Added: 0017254|
|2010-11-10 08:12||kenvc||Priority||high => urgent|
|2010-11-10 08:12||kenvc||Severity||major => crash|
|2010-11-10 08:12||kenvc||Status||acknowledged => confirmed|
|2010-11-10 08:12||kenvc||Summary||v0.7.1 Objects or Attachments such as avatar hair appears in center hud position => v0.7.1 Objects or Attachments such as avatar hair still appears in center hud position|
|2010-11-10 08:12||kenvc||Description Updated|
|2010-11-21 18:38||kenvc||Note Added: 0017365|
|2010-11-21 18:41||kenvc||Summary||v0.7.1 Objects or Attachments such as avatar hair still appears in center hud position => v0.7.1 11/18/2010 OSGrid release objects such as avatar hair still appears in center hud position|
|2010-11-21 18:41||kenvc||Description Updated|
|2010-11-21 18:43||kenvc||Summary||v0.7.1 11/18/2010 OSGrid release objects such as avatar hair still appears in center hud position => v0.7.1 11/18/2010 OSGrid - objects such as avatar hair still appears in center hud position|
|2010-12-07 13:07||samiam||Relationship added||parent of 0005257|
|2010-12-07 13:08||samiam||Relationship deleted||parent of 0005257|
|2010-12-12 21:24||LaniGlobal||Note Added: 0017577|
|2010-12-12 21:27||LaniGlobal||Note Edited: 0017577|
|2010-12-18 09:06||kenvc||Git Revision||ae9c4a4d118e126b4f849bbfed112d0971459339 => ed26376|
|2010-12-18 09:06||kenvc||Viewer||=> All Viewers|
|2010-12-18 09:06||kenvc||Note Added: 0017635|
|2010-12-18 09:06||kenvc||Summary||v0.7.1 11/18/2010 OSGrid - objects such as avatar hair still appears in center hud position => 12/14/2010 OSGrid Release - objects such as avatar hair still appears in center hud position|
|2010-12-20 12:18||WordfromtheWise||Note Added: 0017656|
|2011-01-05 15:29||kenvc||Summary||12/14/2010 OSGrid Release - objects such as avatar hair still appears in center hud position => 12/22/2010 OSGrid Release - objects such as avatar hair still appears in center hud position|
|2011-01-20 10:25||kenvc||Git Revision||ed26376 => 9f7b37b|
|2011-01-20 10:25||kenvc||Note Added: 0017875|
|2011-01-20 10:25||kenvc||Summary||12/22/2010 OSGrid Release - objects such as avatar hair still appears in center hud position => 01/17/2011 0.7.1 9f7b37b - Objects such as avatar hair still appears in center hud position|
|2011-01-20 10:25||kenvc||Description Updated|
|2011-01-22 07:01||kenvc||Note Added: 0017879|
|2011-01-22 07:04||kenvc||Description Updated|
|2011-01-22 07:08||kenvc||Note Edited: 0017079|
|2012-01-13 18:02||justincc||Note Added: 0020685|
|2012-01-13 18:10||melanie||Note Added: 0020686|
|2012-01-22 15:41||danbanner||Note Added: 0020702|
|2012-01-22 15:44||kenvc||Note Added: 0020703|
|2012-01-22 15:53||danbanner||Note Edited: 0020702||View Revisions|
|2012-01-22 18:32||LaniGlobal||Note Added: 0020704|
|2012-04-07 13:08||JamieWright||Note Added: 0021208|
|2012-10-12 18:17||justincc||Note Added: 0022847|
|2012-10-12 18:21||kenvc||Note Added: 0022849|
|2012-10-13 01:48||aiaustin||Note Added: 0022850|
|2012-10-13 01:51||aiaustin||Note Edited: 0022850||View Revisions|
|2012-10-13 01:53||aiaustin||Note Edited: 0022850||View Revisions|
|2012-10-13 01:55||aiaustin||Note Edited: 0022850||View Revisions|
|2012-10-13 01:55||aiaustin||Note Edited: 0017135||View Revisions|
|2012-10-13 03:30||aiaustin||Note Added: 0022852|
|2012-10-13 03:30||aiaustin||File Added: 2012-10-13-OpenSim-0.7.5-OSGrid-Vue-6400-Central-HUD.jpg|
|2012-10-13 03:31||aiaustin||File Deleted: 2012-10-13-OpenSim-0.7.5-OSGrid-Vue-6400-Central-HUD.jpg|
|2012-10-13 03:36||aiaustin||File Added: 2012-10-13-OpenSim-0.7.5-OSGrid-Vue-6400-Central-HUD.jpg|
|2012-10-13 03:47||aiaustin||Note Edited: 0022852||View Revisions|
|2012-10-13 03:48||aiaustin||Note Edited: 0022852||View Revisions|
|2012-10-13 03:53||aiaustin||Note Edited: 0022852||View Revisions|
|2012-10-13 08:01||kenvc||Note Added: 0022853|
|2012-10-14 14:12||aiaustin||Note Edited: 0022852||View Revisions|
|2012-10-14 14:13||aiaustin||Note Edited: 0022852||View Revisions|
|2012-10-15 12:31||aiaustin||Summary||01/17/2011 0.7.1 9f7b37b - Objects such as avatar hair still appears in center hud position => Objects such as avatar hair still appears in center hud position|
|2012-10-15 12:34||aiaustin||Note Edited: 0017135||View Revisions|
|2012-10-15 12:36||aiaustin||Note Edited: 0022850||View Revisions|
|2012-10-15 12:38||aiaustin||Note Edited: 0022850||View Revisions|
|2012-10-15 12:40||aiaustin||Note Edited: 0022852||View Revisions|
|2013-06-29 17:49||kenvc||Note Added: 0024162|
|2013-06-29 17:49||kenvc||Status||confirmed => resolved|
|2013-06-29 17:49||kenvc||Fixed in Version||=> master (dev code)|
|2013-06-29 17:49||kenvc||Resolution||open => fixed|
|2013-06-29 17:49||kenvc||Assigned To||=> kenvc|
|2014-03-06 14:45||justincc||Status||resolved => closed|
|2014-03-06 14:46||justincc||Assigned To||kenvc =>|
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