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0002670opensim[REGION] OpenSim Corepublic2008-11-22 08:202011-12-12 10:34
mirceakitsune 
 
urgentmajoralways
newopen 
Pentium 4Windows XP Media CenterSP3 32bit
 
 
Grid (1 Region per Sim)
ODE
.NET / Windows32
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0002670: Possible griefing method - Unlinking a linkset with child prims stretching to a neighbor causes prims to project to neighbor
A few days ago a griefer put a primitive with offending images into my sim. I tried to delete it and restore sim backups but soon found out that the primitive, which technically and in-world is totally into my sim, is not considered to be on my sim and I didn't have rights to delete it nor restoring my sim helped. I tried to see how the griefer managed to put a single primitive over my region and have that primitive not considered to be on it and found out the security issue which can allow doing such a thing;

Create a longer linkset of two prims... say 40m from one another. Now move that linkset so that the child prim in it reaches into a neighboring sim but the center of the linkset and the main prim remain in the same region (just move the center of the linkset close to the border but don't cross it). Now unlink the object and delete the prim which was the main prim and remained in your region. Issue: The prim which was the child prim and got unlinked while being into the neighboring region remains in the neighboring region but is considered to be into the region the linkset was in before unlinked. Basically, the owner of that region still has rights over the prim and the prim is still stored in it while the prim entirely sits in the neighbor.

Since my neighbor allows building but has serverside_object_permissions set to TRUE, the griefer managed to put the offending single primitive into my sim and have me unable to delete it because, even if the primitive is into my sim, it remains stored and considered to be in my neighbor. Basically, when unlinking an object and child prims that stretched to a neighbor are unlinked too, they are offset out of bounds in to the neighboring region but still stored / considered in the region the linkset was in.
2nd paragraph in the Description field above.
Possible ways to solve this;

1 - Not allow an object to push only child prims past the border, and if border crossing is enabled either cross the object all the way past or not. Maybe only if the neighboring parcel has "Object Entry" disabled? Not most recommended in my opinion.

2 - Not allow unlinking an object if the entire object isn't sitting in the same region and has child prims poking out into a neighbor or out of bounds.

3 - If an object which has child prims stretched to a neighbor is unlinked, the child prims would jump back at the border limit into the sim the linkset was in so they remain in the same region.

4 - As long as "Object Entry" is not disabled on the parcel of the neighbor the linkset stretches in, the unlinked child prims are correctly border-crossed to your that neighbor once they are no longer part of the linkset which was sitting its neighboring sim.
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child of 0002870new  META - Linking issues 
Issue History
2008-11-22 08:20mirceakitsuneNew Issue
2008-11-22 08:20mirceakitsuneSVN Revision => 7422
2008-11-22 08:20mirceakitsuneRun Mode => Grid (1 Region per Sim)
2008-11-22 08:20mirceakitsunePhysics Engine => ODE
2008-11-22 08:20mirceakitsuneEnvironment => .NET / Windows32
2008-11-22 08:20mirceakitsunePrioritynormal => immediate
2008-11-22 08:22mirceakitsuneCategory[GRID] Asset Server => [REGION] OpenSim Core
2008-11-22 08:23melanieNote Added: 0007273
2008-12-18 13:12TeravusRelationship addedchild of 0002870
2009-07-15 09:21mirceakitsuneNote Added: 0012453
2009-07-15 09:22mirceakitsuneMono Version => None
2009-07-15 09:22mirceakitsunePriorityimmediate => urgent
2011-12-12 08:00mirceakitsuneNote Added: 0020507
2011-12-12 10:34Bo IwuNote Added: 0020513

Notes
(0007273)
melanie   
2008-11-22 08:23   
0000004 is the correct way to handle this. The current state (e.g. allowing out-of-sim coordinates on a root prim) is totally unacceptable.
(0012453)
mirceakitsune   
2009-07-15 09:21   
Tested again in rev 10027, so far this is still possible.
(0020507)
mirceakitsune   
2011-12-12 08:00   
Tested this again with my r/17539 sim on a neighbor. Although dragging a single object across borders deleted / returned my object, the linkset trick still works, and can be used to position a prim < 0 or > 255 making it show in someone else's region.
(0020513)
Bo Iwu   
2011-12-12 10:34   
Not sure, but isn't this related to the "megaregion hack"? I hoped it is in "non-continuous" mode disabled.