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Talk to the Friti, my dear!

Before leaving me a message: find out a little about how to edit a wiki.

Need to delete a page? NEVER blank the page. Instead, use the {{delete}} template, so that the sysops can completely delete the page if THEY feel it is justified.

When is deletion of a page justified? If a page answers to one or more of the following criteria:

  1. Typo in page name. Ex. MyPagee, instead of MyPage
  2. Wrong namespace. Ex John_Doe, instead of User:John_Doe
  3. Spam. Ex, a page with the name "Eat At Joe's", when the wiki is not food related.
  4. Vandalism. Ex. Pages created in large quantities, for the purpose of making information on the wiki hard to find.
  5. Vanity. There's no reason why a user should create a page called "John Doe", when he already has a page at "User:John_Doe".

If the information is out of date, UPDATE the info, do not delete the page, nor have it deleted. People rely on this wiki for help, do not derive them of the information they need by deleting info, no matter how outdated it is.

In fact, some people may even NEED this outdated info! There may still be people out there, running 0.5.x (or older!) as a standalone server for whatever reason there may be (hardware incompatibility, fear of upgrading, whatever).

Therefore, do not remove outdated, or obsolete info, but update it. Or better yet, archive it, and make a new page with a revision number. That way, there will be up-to-date info, and at the same time, older info is preserved for those who need it.


Quick info for you.

As you like to update things, have a look at this link  http://opensimulator.org/viewgit/?a=commit&p=opensim&h=b512ecd1dc538f029e6772f526db78eb6687d938

These are the changes that have come into place as of today.

Have Fun.

Thanks!

Hey Fritigern, thanks a lot for all the work you've been doing on the wiki. As reward/punishment, you are now a sysop :). You may also want to put your name in the wiki sysop section of Development Team - Justincc 15:25, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

About ossl script examples

First, thank you for adding contents to wiki. However, I'd like to warn to you about contents copyright.

As far as I saw, almost (all?) of the ossl you have inserted today come from Aurora SIM Wiki. I can't judge if it is ok, but at least, you might want to let reader know it is from Aurora SIM Wiki to respect their works. If it have original copyright descrtion on the header comment, you should't delete it.

I rather hope to see original shorter examples, but for now, we should be polite to each creators. Thank you very much. --Makopoppo 01:40, 31 July 2011 (UTC)


I wrote & re-wrote previous ossl script samples for Aurora-Sim in December & January 2011, which is what you have here.  I do not have a problem with you using them, provided the header remains intact.   --WhiteStar 08:16, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I did indeed take the scripts from Aurora, and copied them exactly as they appeared in order to preserve proper credit. There is only one script that i slightly changed in order to make it work without deprecated functions, which is OsSetSunParam, which used the deprecated osSunGetParam.
BTW, Makopopo, what makes you think i deleted anything? Or would want to? I find that remark quite insulting, because it shows that you don't think very highly of me.
--Fritigern 21:18, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Fritigern, as the author WhiteStar says, you should copy and past INCLUDING headers. For example, current header on this wiki is like that:
// ----------------------------------------------------------------
// Example / Sample Script to show function use.
//
// Script Title:    osParcelSubdivide.lsl
// Script Author:
// Threat Level:    High
// Script Source:   SUPPLEMENTAL http://opensimulator.org/wiki/osParcelSubdivide
//
// Notes: See Script Source reference for more detailed information
// This sample is full opensource and available to use as you see fit and desire.
// Threat Levels only apply to OSSL & AA Functions
// See http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Threat_level
// ================================================================
// C# Source Line:      public void osParcelSubdivide(LSL_Vector pos1, LSL_Vector pos2)
// Inworld Script Line:     osParcelSubdivide(vector pos1, vector pos2);
//
// Example of osParcelSubdivide
// This function allows subdivision of parcels programmatically.
// Subdivides( start.x,start.y _to_ end.x,end.y ) Z is ignored but must exist in syntax
However, the header in [Aurora-Sim Wiki http://wiki.aurora-sim.org/index.php?title=OsParcelSubdivide] is like that
// ----------------------------------------------------------------
// Example / Sample Script to show function use.
//
// Script Title:    osParcelSubdivide.lsl
// Script Author:
// Threat Level:    High
//
// Notes: This sample is full opensource and available to use as you see fit and desire.
// Threat Levels only apply to OSSL & AA Functions
// ================================================================
// C# Source Line:      public void osParcelSubdivide(LSL_Vector pos1, LSL_Vector pos2)
// Inworld Script Line:     osParcelSubdivide(vector pos1, vector pos2);
//
// Example of osParcelSubdivide
// This function allows subdivision of parcels programmatically.
// Subdivides( start.x,start.y _to_ end.x,end.y ) Z is ignored but must exist in syntax

You inserted the line "script source" on this header. Actual script source would be http://wiki.aurora-sim.org/index.php?title=OsParcelSubdivide.

I think considering of editing the sample script, it would be nice to have only a link to Aurora-Sim Wiki instead of copy&paste the sample. We can anytime create our own sample if we have time to do that. As an admin, I have to check and act against copyrights violation, as well as codebase. (It would be answer for your last question) If you take it insult, sorry but I haven't meant to do that. I just wanted to prevent any trouble about OpenSimulator Wiki as an admin. Thank you. -- Makopoppo 23:14, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

With regards to the header, when these scripts were done & tested, Aurora's wiki did not yet exist and so I naturally referenced them back to OpenSim.   Change that as you wish, it's really all quite irrelevant and as for Licence & Copyright, they are fully open source & public on Aurora wiki which I think off hand is under CC 2.5 and additionally posted in the Aurora Git Repo for anyone to use as it's included as part of the docs with the source code.  --WhiteStar 23:51, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

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