http://opensimulator.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Feature_Proposals%2FDynamic_Attributes_in_Scene_Objects 2026-06-13T13:20:00Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.19.9 http://opensimulator.org/index.php?title=Feature_Proposals/Dynamic_Attributes_in_Scene_Objects&diff=39264&oldid=prev 2014-07-04T19:28:20Z

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Justincc http://opensimulator.org/index.php?title=Feature_Proposals/Dynamic_Attributes_in_Scene_Objects&diff=39260&oldid=prev 2014-07-04T19:18:58Z

<p>‎<span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Proposers</span></span></p> <table class='diff diff-contentalign-left'> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 19:18, 4 July 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 11:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 11:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Originally implemented by JustinCC in 2010.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Originally implemented by JustinCC in 2010.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Being revived by Oren Hurvitz and JustinCC</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Being revived by Oren Hurvitz and JustinCC<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2">&#160;</td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>&#160;</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2">&#160;</td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Implemented since OpenSimulator 0.7.6.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>= Introduction =</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>= Introduction =</div></td></tr> </table>

Justincc http://opensimulator.org/index.php?title=Feature_Proposals/Dynamic_Attributes_in_Scene_Objects&diff=32118&oldid=prev 2013-03-14T00:20:54Z

<p>‎<span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Actions</span></span></p> <table class='diff diff-contentalign-left'> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 00:20, 14 March 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 156:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 156:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>* Consider serialization issues.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>* Consider serialization issues.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>* Look at storing objects in dynamic attributes rather than an OSD.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>* Look at storing objects in dynamic attributes rather than an OSD.</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2">&#160;</td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2">&#160;</td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Now starting to explore these issues in git master.&#160; See http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=6541 for more details.</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Justincc http://opensimulator.org/index.php?title=Feature_Proposals/Dynamic_Attributes_in_Scene_Objects&diff=32064&oldid=prev 2013-03-09T01:10:38Z

<p>‎<span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Recent March Considerations</span></span></p> <table class='diff diff-contentalign-left'> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 01:10, 9 March 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 47:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 47:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>This branch is a 'technology preview' at most and should not be relied upon in production in any way whatsoever.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>This branch is a 'technology preview' at most and should not be relied upon in production in any way whatsoever.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>==Recent March Considerations==</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>==Recent March <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">2013 </ins>Considerations==</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Oren's propsal to store dynamic attributes as a JSON serialization rather than XML have triggered me (justincc) to do a thorough review of my original dynamic attributes work and outline the various serialization alternatives.&#160; These are</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Oren's propsal to store dynamic attributes as a JSON serialization rather than XML have triggered me (justincc) to do a thorough review of my original dynamic attributes work and outline the various serialization alternatives.&#160; These are</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> </table>

Justincc http://opensimulator.org/index.php?title=Feature_Proposals/Dynamic_Attributes_in_Scene_Objects&diff=32063&oldid=prev 2013-03-09T01:10:23Z

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Justincc http://opensimulator.org/index.php?title=Feature_Proposals/Dynamic_Attributes_in_Scene_Objects&diff=32062&oldid=prev 2013-03-09T00:53:53Z

<p>‎<span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Recent March Considerations</span></span></p> <table class='diff diff-contentalign-left'> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 00:53, 9 March 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 92:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 92:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>&#160;&#160; &lt;/map&gt;</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>&#160;&#160; &lt;/map&gt;</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>&lt;/ossd&gt;</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>&lt;/ossd&gt;</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2">&#160;</td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">&lt;/source&gt;</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>'''Pros'''</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>'''Pros'''</div></td></tr> </table>

Justincc http://opensimulator.org/index.php?title=Feature_Proposals/Dynamic_Attributes_in_Scene_Objects&diff=32061&oldid=prev 2013-03-09T00:53:21Z

<p></p> <table class='diff diff-contentalign-left'> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 00:53, 9 March 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 11:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 11:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Originally implemented by JustinCC in 2010.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Originally implemented by JustinCC in 2010.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; 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Justincc http://opensimulator.org/index.php?title=Feature_Proposals/Dynamic_Attributes_in_Scene_Objects&diff=31778&oldid=prev 2013-02-07T23:22:35Z

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Justincc http://opensimulator.org/index.php?title=Feature_Proposals/Dynamic_Attributes_in_Scene_Objects&diff=31631&oldid=prev 2013-01-22T10:58:54Z

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Orenh http://opensimulator.org/index.php?title=Feature_Proposals/Dynamic_Attributes_in_Scene_Objects&diff=31488&oldid=prev 2013-01-02T20:59:52Z

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Orenh