OpenSimulator - User contributions [en]

Talk:Mono

2009-06-17T08:01:59Z

Grumly:

* It sure is nice that Opensim is on Miguel's radar now. He might even see it as a nice heavy load test for Mono, which would be good for the Opensim community. [[User:Morgaine|Morgaine]] 23:18, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

* Miguel's preceding post in [http://pastebin.ca/1460278 pastebin] may be worth preserving as well, as it provides some insight into which memory size parameter is actually being measured and compared (namely RSS), and why:

I did some testing and downloaded opensim-0.6.4-release on both Windows and Linux.

I accessed a remote Windows system to do the build and run the simulator and I used my
local Linux machine with Hippo to test the memory usage. Sadly, Hippo kept crashing on me,
so I could not do a very extensive test.

A fresh virtual world with Mono/32-bit vs Vista/32 bit has Mono using 51 megs of RAM on
startup on Linux vs 55 megs of RAM on Vista (50 megs plus 5 megs of the OpenSim.vhost.exe)

If you run Mono/64 (which is what I initially did) the size of 64 bit pointeres has a strong
effect on Mono and increases the process size by 11 megs.

So at least starting up, Mono ends up with a 5 meg advantage. Perhaps the objects loaded
after that make a difference, but without the actual data that you used, it is hard to
find out exactly what it is.

I suspect though, that you might have compared the memory usage report from taskmanager on Windows
versus the VSIZE memory usage, this is a common mistake.

It is also worth pointing out that the VSIZE reported by ps aux is usually very large and is the
*wrong* metric to measure memory usage of OpenSim on Mono. The VSIZE reports the VM address space
used by Mono and it happens to include all sorts of things that are not actually using memory.

The RSS size is what you want to look at in both cases. There are a few hundred blogs that explain
why you should not use VSIZE when computing memory usage and why you should look at RSS, for instance:

http://virtualthreads.blogspot.com/2006/02/understanding-memory-usage-on-linux.html

[Miguel]
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> First Post:
>
> Regarding the claims on Mono’s memory problems. I would like to know what exactly you claim
> that is larger in Mono than it is on .NET.
>
> I can understand a small percentage increase in memory consumption in Mono, but not a 3x or
> 4x increase in memory usage.
>
> Could you provide a sample “set” that I could use to test various versions of Mono across a
> number of operating systems and compare it to Windows?
> [Miguel de Icaza]

: Pastebin links reported to SL::AW Groupies by ssm2017 Binder, pasted here by [[User:Morgaine|Morgaine]] 16:11, 15 June 2009 (UTC).

* the .vshost.exe is not relevant in this scenario : The "opensim.vshost.exe" process is used by Visual Studio to allow enhanced debugging capabilities, i.e "edit and continue" and some other goodies (see [http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms185331%28VS.80%29.aspx MSDN documentation]). opensim.vshost.exe is completely unusefull to OpenSim in "production mode" and to worry about its 5mb overhead is not relevant IMHO. I think it might be interresting to test using a "release mode" compiled OpenSim, disabling all debugging options and setting the same optimization flags on in both Mono and .NET if it applies. As a bonus, here is a link that explains [http://shsc.info/WindowsMemoryManagement Memory management on Windows] which is more tricky than it seems.

2008-06-02T12:29:42Z

Grumly: Draw on prims using a Silverlight applet

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===NixNerd===
Snapshot of my little OpenSim island - using Latest Windlight SL client
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===CentralGrid===
Central Grid Orientation
[[Image:2cg_home_003_001.jpg|thumbnail]]
Central Grid Business
[[Image:2cg_home_003_014.jpg|thumbnail]]
BullRun - Art Gallery inside CentralGrid
[[Image:BullRun_CentralGrid.jpg|thumbnail]]

===United Grid - Sid Green===
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====Phrearch Miles====
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====Sean Dague====
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====Sun Payne====

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====Grumly====

Lego(tm) building :-)

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Draw on prims using an Browser Silverlight applet

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== Videos ==

===Megaprims===

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouEcKEhz1AA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqcdH4ub6rQ

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9cElvejrxo Flight Into Terrain Megaprims in Berkeley] 

===Other videos===

Jeff1564 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwYQL7nMENQ 

Nebadon2025 
http://www.nebadon2025.com/opensim 

FrancoGrid 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixHcmLFSWvM 

Sun 
[http://secondlife.slirl.com/mg_slirl/album.php?aid=111&page=1 Opensimulator album] 

DarbDabney 
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86IVMafq3ik UC Berkeley Greek Theater 1.024:1 scale] 

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBlbB72cpUQ UC Berkeley LBNL to Wurster Hall 1.024:1 scale] 

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cealA1QL59s UC Berkeley Easterly campus flight 1.024:1 scale] 

Archimedix 
[http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2679558764935410864&q=opensim&ei=4OYqSM_vCI6K2QKbypTeCQ Import Terrain from main grid] 

== External Links ==
===LaeMi's sim on her home Linux box===
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~laemi/impact/
[[Category:Users]]
[[Category:Development]]

===Flickr OpenSim group===
http://www.flickr.com/groups/opensim/
[[Category:Users]]
[[Category:Development]]
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File:DrawOnPrim2.png

2008-06-02T12:27:34Z

Grumly:

File:DrawOnPrim1.png

2008-06-02T12:27:21Z

Grumly:

File:SilverlightDrawOnPrim.png

2008-06-02T12:27:07Z

Grumly:

Screenshots

2008-04-25T17:02:29Z

Grumly: /* AIAI Grid - http://vue.ed.ac.uk/openvue/ */

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===Balthazar===
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===Darb===
Simulator, meet Geographic Info Systems (simgis.org)
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===NixNerd===
Snapshot of my little OpenSim island - using Latest Windlight SL client
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===CentralGrid===
Central Grid Orientation
[[Image:2cg_home_003_001.jpg|thumbnail]]

Central Grid Business
[[Image:2cg_home_003_014.jpg|thumbnail]]

BullRun - Art Gallery inside CentralGrid
[[Image:BullRun_CentralGrid.jpg|thumbnail]]

===United Grid - Sid Green===
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|[[Image:United_Grid_Tramway_1.png|thumbnail]]

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====Phrearch Miles====
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====Sean Dague====
[[Image:dynamictexture.png]]

====Sun Payne====

Pictures taken on the opengrid maintened by opensimulator.fr

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|[[Image:Sun linden.jpg|thumbnail]]

|[[Image:New Ruth.jpg|thumbnail]]

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|[[Image:Heart island.jpg|thumbnail]]

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====AIAI Grid - http://vue.ed.ac.uk/openvue/====
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====Grumly====

Lego(tm) building :-)

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== Videos ==

===Megaprims===

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouEcKEhz1AA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqcdH4ub6rQ

===Other videos===

Jeff1564 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwYQL7nMENQ 

Nebadon2025 
http://www.nebadon2025.com/opensim 

FrancoGrid 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixHcmLFSWvM 

Sun 
[http://secondlife.slirl.com/mg_slirl/album.php?aid=111&page=1 Opensimulator album]

== External Links ==
===LaeMi's sim on her home Linux box===
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~laemi/impact/
[[Category:Users]]
[[Category:Development]]

===Flickr OpenSim group===
http://www.flickr.com/groups/opensim/
[[Category:Users]]
[[Category:Development]]
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File:Lego3.jpg

2008-04-25T16:57:17Z

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2008-04-25T16:57:06Z

Grumly:

2007-12-27T21:36:07Z

Grumly: os function vs primitive object model

OpenSimulator:0.5 Release Target Discussion

2007-12-25T10:40:22Z

Grumly: /* Tighter integration of DataStore into the core */

==Suggested Goals==

== Bug Fixes ==

* Make prim unlinking work. Done
* Intra & inter region teleporting
* Complete avatar customization
* Complete connection of script editor to allow editing a prim directly

== Physics==

* Support for at least one physics engine with basic collision detection '''Done'''

* looks like hollow prims and some other simple shapes may be possible '''Done'''

* ODE is furthest along at this point. Issues include overall stability and lack of multithreading

* BulletX is being worked on

* New physics interface design? (event driven)

==New Backend Protocol (OGS 2)==

 

==Restructure and Normalize code==
* We should follow 'one dir, one assembly'
* We should follow 'dir == assembly == namespace'
* OpenSim.Framework should not be OpenSim/Framework/General - the whole namespace needs normalization.
* The OpenSimMain and RegionApplicationBase should be renamed (ConfigurableSimulator and SimulatorBase) and moved to a more suitable assembly.
 

== As part of the new protocol, overhaul the "commsmanager"==

*A lot of the functions currently in there, needs moving out. Like most of the Caps handling needs to be moved to the backend servers (possible with a dedicated Caps Manager server, like LL seem to have).

*Inventory handling should move to a module. As should Xfer uploads.

== Rewrite Asset Cache/Server==

 

== Improve the management of client updates==

* Use a "interest list" for each connected client, so they only get updated about prims/objects that are in range (or they need to know about).

* Combine objects (parts) into single packets, rather than sending a separate packet for each prim as currently happens.

== Finish implementing the ll functions for scripting. ==

 

== Improve UDP network code (ClientStack) ==

 

== Clean up the IClientAPI interface ==

 

== Start to think more about security ? (most likely will not happen until a later version)==

* Add security sinks in the "region to region" .Net remoting process.

* Check for security holes in scripting engine.

== Tighter integration of DataStore into the core ==

'''Suggestion''' : Code persistence logic code duplication in current OpenSim.Framework.Data.* could be avoided using ADO.NET base classes (DbCommand, DbConnection, DbDataAdapter... see System.Data.Common) in a common core for all existing database engine. A tiny library that is specific to a database engine could create typed version of these objects (createConnection, createCommand, createDataAdapter...). Theses "tiny library" would use the same interface (ie: DBEngine) and would have the responsibility to handle tricks as SQL syntax differences as TOP vs LIMIT, SQL Parameters naming, SQL specific types...
 

== Planet Mode ==
One on the shortcomings of the grid model is that it is a "Flat Earth" approach. By doing little more modifying OpenSim to (optionally) connect the northern edge of the topmost region to the southern edge of the bottom region and a similar mod for the east and western edges and we have effectively brought together any group of contiguous regions within a grid and created a planet. If you keep walking/flying long enough you would eventually (or very quickly - the more sims the larger the planet) arrive back at your point of origin.

Try this - take a map of your sim and apply it as a texture to a sphere - see what I mean?

The analogy can also be extended further, a sandalone sim becomes a Planetary System Server, a grid server becomes Star System Server and a new level could be added to link Grids - The Galaxy Server but I am thinking the info DNS provides may already have that covered.

I now invite the community to debate the concept further - are we a "Flat Earth" or a "Planetary System" with galactic potential?

Magi.

 

Not to pick nits, but connecting N/S and E/W edges of a plane doesn't give you a sphere. It gives you a torus. The image we have here is a universe of doughnut shaped grids floating in space.... Mmmm donuts (it is still a pretty cool idea)

Lamont
 

I think we need a section for suggestions to new features and a section for what will be part of the next release.
 
Tleiades

Would like to see planet mode considered early in the project. This is essential for accurate representation of "real world" versus the "fantasy world" (but could also be used in fantasy world as well). One of the team members did some work looking at the healpix project as a possible solution. http://healpix.jpl.nasa.gov/

Nink
 

I have always wanted to see a grid where you could have regions not only to the north, south, east west of a region but also above and below. This would enable space above for orbiting space stations and the like and depth below for underwater worlds and tunnels.

Garth FairChang
 

== Parcel Media Settings ==
The multimedia functions in OpenSim create an awesome environment for presenting an enormous range of material. Whilst the parcel media settings can be set they do not persist between sessions.

Magi.

User:User:Grumly

2007-12-21T13:34:26Z

Grumly: Removing all content from page

User:Grumly

2007-12-21T13:34:06Z

Grumly: New page: French MCAD .NET Developer Consultant - Trainer

French MCAD .NET Developer Consultant - Trainer

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2007-12-20T20:49:03Z

Grumly: New page: French MCAD .NET Developer Consultant - Trainer

French MCAD .NET Developer Consultant - Trainer