Chat log from the meeting on 2010-11-09

[2010/11/09 10:59] Nebadon Izumi: hey guys [2010/11/09 10:59] sim core: Hi, neb and all :-) [2010/11/09 10:59]  BlueWall Slade: Hello [2010/11/09 10:59]  Richardus Raymaker: hi blue sim [2010/11/09 11:00]  sim core: Greets, richardus :-J [2010/11/09 11:00]  Richardus Raymaker: hi penny [2010/11/09 11:00]  Richardus Raymaker: hi neb [2010/11/09 11:00]  Nebadon Izumi: hello [2010/11/09 11:00]  Penny Lane is Online [2010/11/09 11:01]  Penny Lane: Hi Neb, Rich [2010/11/09 11:01]  Richardus Raymaker: is the new version already available for download ? [2010/11/09 11:01]  Dorothea Lundquist is Online [2010/11/09 11:01]  Richardus Raymaker: the source [2010/11/09 11:01]  Script saved [2010/11/09 11:01]  sim core: I believe it is, on the chat channel richardus :-) [2010/11/09 11:01] Richardus Raymaker: not o the page [2010/11/09 11:02] Nebadon Izumi: yes Richardus [2010/11/09 11:02] Richardus Raymaker: lol sims, thats finding a flee in the usa [2010/11/09 11:02] Nebadon Izumi: i posted it on IRC and Twitter [2010/11/09 11:02] Sammmy Galicia: hello [2010/11/09 11:02] Nebadon Izumi: and the login screen [2010/11/09 11:02] Nebadon Izumi: 1 sec [2010/11/09 11:02] Andrew Hellershanks: oh... sliding doors. Those are new [2010/11/09 11:02] Nebadon Izumi: http://news.osgrid.org/2010/11/09/preparing-for-todays-mandatory-upgrades/ [2010/11/09 11:02] Andrew Hellershanks: hello, everyone [2010/11/09 11:02] Nebadon Izumi: hello [2010/11/09 11:02] Richardus Raymaker: about news. it would be nice if there's 1 page wirg all news, and not spread on 3 pages. that are not all uptodat [2010/11/09 11:03] Penny Lane: Hi Andrew [2010/11/09 11:03] sim core: Lol hi, andrew and all [2010/11/09 11:03] Nebadon Izumi: twitter Richardus [2010/11/09 11:03] Nebadon Izumi: whenever i post news it will be linked on Twitter [2010/11/09 11:03] Andrew Hellershanks: opensim website is supposed to have a search feature. I'm trying to use it and I still can't find the info I'm looking for. :-) [2010/11/09 11:03] Richardus Raymaker: ok found it [2010/11/09 11:03]  Nebadon Izumi: Andrew [2010/11/09 11:04]  Nebadon Izumi: using google search is still better [2010/11/09 11:04]  Nebadon Izumi: in google [2010/11/09 11:04]  Nebadon Izumi: type > site:opensimulator.org/wiki  [2010/11/09 11:04]  Andrew Hellershanks: yeah, I tried that. Still didn't turn up what I was looking for. [2010/11/09 11:04]  Nebadon Izumi: what are you looking for? [2010/11/09 11:04]  Andrew Hellershanks: The info on setting up voice chat using FreeSwitch. I was thinking of having another go at getting it working in my grid. [2010/11/09 11:05]  sim core: Yes, speaking of that does anyone know where to look to get the flags for os language... [2010/11/09 11:05]  Andrew Hellershanks: os language? [2010/11/09 11:06]  Richardus Raymaker is Online [2010/11/09 11:06]  Andrew Hellershanks: For a speech translator? [2010/11/09 11:06] Richardus Raymaker: i must be nts, dont see the download link on the news page [2010/11/09 11:06] Justin Clark-Casey is Online [2010/11/09 11:06] sim core: ...yes ossl, I use the parcel setting function but, the details on the flags are missing on the webpage :-J [2010/11/09 11:07] Nebadon Izumi: ah i have some info on the osgrid wiki [2010/11/09 11:07] Nebadon Izumi: but i dont know how valid it really is [2010/11/09 11:07]  Nebadon Izumi: let me get the link [2010/11/09 11:07] sim core: I'll look it up, thank-you :-) [2010/11/09 11:07]  Nebadon Izumi: http://wiki.osgrid.org/index.php/Freeswitch_HowTo2 [2010/11/09 11:08]  Richardus Raymaker: pff, did you changed colors on the twitterpage ? [2010/11/09 11:08]  Nebadon Izumi: hey there Justin [2010/11/09 11:08]  Justin Clark-Casey: hi nebadon [2010/11/09 11:08]  Justin Clark-Casey: hi all [2010/11/09 11:08]  Richardus Raymaker: hi justin. [2010/11/09 11:08]  Richardus Raymaker: soryy nebadon, i dont see any source download link [2010/11/09 11:08]  sim core: http://opensimulator.org/wiki/OsParcelSetDetails [2010/11/09 11:09]  Sammmy Galicia: http://download.osgrid.org/osgrid.opensim-11092010.v0.7.1.ae9c4a4.zip [2010/11/09 11:09]  Nebadon Izumi: its on the news page Richardus [2010/11/09 11:09]  Richardus Raymaker: i looked, and i dont see it [2010/11/09 11:09]  sim core: :-) Hi, Justin and all [2010/11/09 11:09] Richardus Raymaker: thats source code sammmy ? [2010/11/09 11:10] Sammmy Galicia: no binary [2010/11/09 11:10] Nebadon Izumi: richardus its literally right below the release link [2010/11/09 11:10] Sammmy Galicia: theres two links below that for the source [2010/11/09 11:10] Nebadon Izumi: look again [2010/11/09 11:10] Nebadon Izumi: im gonna test my youtube script [2010/11/09 11:10] Nebadon Izumi whispers: just heads up video is about to play :) [2010/11/09 11:11]  Nebadon Izumi: you see it Richardus? [2010/11/09 11:11]  Sammmy Galicia watches music video [2010/11/09 11:11]  Nebadon Izumi: cool guess its working then [2010/11/09 11:11]  Richardus Raymaker: i see only freenode link and soem link to git list [2010/11/09 11:11]  Nebadon Izumi: i havent tried it with this large of a crowd [2010/11/09 11:11]  Nebadon Izumi: what page are you looking on Richardus? [2010/11/09 11:12]  Andrew Hellershanks: sim, you can look at the source for the Openmetaverse library for information on the flags used in the LSL/OSSL stuff [2010/11/09 11:12]  Penny Lane: Nice video, but why it starts Imprudence playing all by itself is a mystery. (Impy devs don't know why :P) [2010/11/09 11:12]  Nebadon Izumi: only thing i can say Richardus, your not on the right page [2010/11/09 11:12]  Sammmy Galicia: main news page http://news.osgrid.org/ [2010/11/09 11:12] Nebadon Izumi: heh ya i dont know why either Penny [2010/11/09 11:12] Nebadon Izumi: we are probably not sending packets properly or something [2010/11/09 11:13] Nebadon Izumi: not a huge priority at the moment [2010/11/09 11:13] Richardus Raymaker: i found the problem, the link on twitter points to other page. then right from that is hidden link to other page. thast confusing [2010/11/09 11:13] sim core: :-J Thanks, andrew [2010/11/09 11:13] UnOriginal Names: whoa? [2010/11/09 11:13] Nebadon Izumi: im sure we'll figure it out eventually [2010/11/09 11:13] Penny Lane: No no Neb, it's not you. Same happens in SL [2010/11/09 11:13] Nebadon Izumi: oh [2010/11/09 11:13]  Nebadon Izumi: interesting [2010/11/09 11:13] Nebadon Izumi: i didnt know that [2010/11/09 11:13] Nebadon Izumi: someone told me before it wasnt happening in SL [2010/11/09 11:13]  Nebadon Izumi: and i beleived em [2010/11/09 11:13]  Nebadon Izumi: lol [2010/11/09 11:13] Penny Lane: Heh, I've tested it. [2010/11/09 11:13] Andrew Hellershanks: nebadon, thanks for the freeswitch link [2010/11/09 11:13] UnOriginal Names: hmm [2010/11/09 11:14] Richardus Raymaker: on the news page right is the correct link to source [2010/11/09 11:14] Richardus Raymaker: a bit hidden [2010/11/09 11:14] UnOriginal Names: how did i end up here? [2010/11/09 11:14] Nebadon Izumi: no problem Andrew [2010/11/09 11:14] Nebadon Izumi: UnOriginal, the sim you were trying to access is probbaly crashed [2010/11/09 11:14] Nebadon Izumi: and you got sent here [2010/11/09 11:14] UnOriginal Names: ohok [2010/11/09 11:14] UnOriginal Names: why can't i see u [2010/11/09 11:14]  Nebadon Izumi: we are upstairs [2010/11/09 11:15] Nebadon Izumi: in the meeting center [2010/11/09 11:15] UnOriginal Names: oo [2010/11/09 11:15]  UnOriginal Names: oo [2010/11/09 11:15]  UnOriginal Names: kk [2010/11/09 11:15]  Nebadon Izumi: so ya we'll be doing the upgrade today on OSgrid [2010/11/09 11:15] Nebadon Izumi: grid wont be down long [2010/11/09 11:15] Richardus Raymaker: nebadon, maby you can add the url in the text of the news page that is linked from twitter, so people find the source. [2010/11/09 11:15] Richardus Raymaker: http://news.osgrid.org/2010/11/09/preparing-for-todays-mandatory-upgrades/ [2010/11/09 11:15] UnOriginal Names: omg no lag while that video is playing [2010/11/09 11:15] UnOriginal Names: niiiiiiiiiiiice [2010/11/09 11:15] Nebadon Izumi: Richardus i already did [2010/11/09 11:15] sim core: :-J [2010/11/09 11:16] Nebadon Izumi: let me try a larger video then i'll be done with video for the day [2010/11/09 11:16] Richardus Raymaker: maby this page http://news.osgrid.org/2010/11/08/mandatory-simulator-upgrade-11092010/ dont get reloaded here then [2010/11/09 11:16] Nebadon Izumi: i just wanted to test our new Youtube proxy [2010/11/09 11:16] Andrew Hellershanks: I don't think I have a compiler for C on my windows servers but I can always test it by compiling the latest code on my Linux server [2010/11/09 11:16] UnOriginal Names: omg it's workign fine, the youtube [2010/11/09 11:17] Richardus Raymaker: works god you tube [2010/11/09 11:17] Sammmy Galicia: PMi [2010/11/09 11:17] Nebadon Izumi: hello Jacek [2010/11/09 11:18] Jacek Antonelli waves [2010/11/09 11:18] Richardus Raymaker: do we need a new TV script to ? [2010/11/09 11:18] Justin Clark-Casey: nebadon: I presume that the revision you're upgrading to is very recent? ae9c4a doesn't actually appear in "git log" [2010/11/09 11:18] Lurch Swindlehurst: Hey Sachse [2010/11/09 11:18] Nebadon Izumi: ya its new LSL and a New PHP based Proxy [2010/11/09 11:18] UnOriginal Names: is slvoice part of this upgrade? when i sign off of here, i get an slvoice.exe missing or something [2010/11/09 11:18] Nebadon Izumi: its master git justin [2010/11/09 11:18] Sammmy Galicia: wonders what a good way of streaming dvd video is. [2010/11/09 11:18] Nebadon Izumi: should be [2010/11/09 11:18]  Lurch Swindlehurst: Wird das zum allgemeinen Treffpunkt am dienstag? [2010/11/09 11:18] Nebadon Izumi: unless i copied the wrong hash [2010/11/09 11:18] Richardus Raymaker: ask another time for new script [2010/11/09 11:18] UnOriginal Names: sammy i have a real good link [2010/11/09 11:18] Sammmy Galicia: really? [2010/11/09 11:19] Justin Clark-Casey: ah no, you're right - I forgot to update [2010/11/09 11:19] UnOriginal Names: i have to find it [2010/11/09 11:19]  UnOriginal Names: lol [2010/11/09 11:19] Nebadon Izumi: ah heh cool [2010/11/09 11:19] Nebadon Izumi: pheew [2010/11/09 11:19] Sammmy Galicia has a darwin streaming server set up [2010/11/09 11:19]  Justin Clark-Casey: nebadon: so the sitting problem was corrected and master is ok again now? [2010/11/09 11:19] Nebadon Izumi: correct [2010/11/09 11:19] Nebadon Izumi: Melanie and I went back and forth testing the sit issue on danger grid [2010/11/09 11:19] Nebadon Izumi: appears mic broke it [2010/11/09 11:19]  Nebadon Izumi: he commented out some physics stuff [2010/11/09 11:19] UnOriginal Names: http://myslhometv.ning.com/forum/topics/play-videos-stored-on-your-pc [2010/11/09 11:19] Nebadon Izumi: and it wasnt as simple as just uncommenting it [2010/11/09 11:19]  UnOriginal Names: here is the link to stream movies from your pc [2010/11/09 11:19]  Justin Clark-Casey: his changes were quite big and weren't actually ready to be put into master [2010/11/09 11:20] Justin Clark-Casey: he wanted more testing first - but I guess that's what it effetively got once it was in master [2010/11/09 11:20] Nebadon Izumi: ya i think were pretty much back to normal now though [2010/11/09 11:20] Andrew Hellershanks: Unoriginal, What viewer are you using? IIRC, there was one that didn't include slvoice or part of what it needed [2010/11/09 11:20] Richardus Raymaker: still mono 2.4.2.3 here nebadon ? [2010/11/09 11:20] Nebadon Izumi: no Richardus [2010/11/09 11:20] Nebadon Izumi: mono 2.8 [2010/11/09 11:20] UnOriginal Names: imprudence [2010/11/09 11:20] Justin Clark-Casey: I suspect a change by diva has broken backward compatability for oars [2010/11/09 11:20] Andrew Hellershanks: yup. I think that was the one that didn't include voice chat file [2010/11/09 11:20] Justin Clark-Casey: or at least, they were already broken [2010/11/09 11:20] Nebadon Izumi: there is an option [2010/11/09 11:20] UnOriginal Names: see my sim im renting from has voice.. [2010/11/09 11:20] Sammmy Galicia: thanks Unoriginal [2010/11/09 11:20] UnOriginal Names: ooo really? [2010/11/09 11:20] UnOriginal Names: i want voice [2010/11/09 11:20] Nebadon Izumi: you have to type > save oar -version=1 myregion.oar [2010/11/09 11:20] UnOriginal Names: lol [2010/11/09 11:20] Andrew Hellershanks: UnOriginal: http://imprudenceviewer.org/wiki/How_to_Re-enable_Voice_Chat [2010/11/09 11:21] Justin Clark-Casey: that option won't correctly export objects within other objects [2010/11/09 11:21] UnOriginal Names: andrew, i've done that and it doesn't work after i log off [2010/11/09 11:21] Justin Clark-Casey: and I think it's something like version=0.4 anyway [2010/11/09 11:21] Nebadon Izumi: oh hrmm [2010/11/09 11:21] UnOriginal Names: do i have to redo it all the time? [2010/11/09 11:21] Nebadon Izumi: ok i'll have to let Diva know [2010/11/09 11:21] Andrew Hellershanks: It shouldn't work after you log off. :-) [2010/11/09 11:21] Nebadon Izumi: we tested it but maybe we didnt test it good enough [2010/11/09 11:21]  Andrew Hellershanks: Un, no voice chat when you return? [2010/11/09 11:21]  UnOriginal Names: ha, you know what i mean [2010/11/09 11:21]  UnOriginal Names: lol [2010/11/09 11:22]  UnOriginal Names: when i log off and sign back on, voice is gone [2010/11/09 11:22]  Andrew Hellershanks: Un, you sure it isn't just a parcel setting issue? [2010/11/09 11:22]  Richardus Raymaker: also when you wait a few seconds to let it connect ? [2010/11/09 11:22]  UnOriginal Names: nope [2010/11/09 11:22]  Nebadon Izumi: ya whenever you teleport from a region with voice [2010/11/09 11:22]  Nebadon Izumi: it will carry with you [2010/11/09 11:22]  Nebadon Izumi: its a bug [2010/11/09 11:22]  Jacek Antonelli: UnOriginal, you shouldn't do the steps on that page if you are using a recent version of Imprudence. In fact it can hurt things. [2010/11/09 11:22] UnOriginal Names: o [2010/11/09 11:23]  Nebadon Izumi: there are alot of parcel update issues when teleporting [2010/11/09 11:23] Andrew Hellershanks: I am trying to get voice chat enabled for regions. That is a big enough problem of its own [2010/11/09 11:23] Justin Clark-Casey: nebadon: btw, the async setting is now true by default - it will only still be false if people are overriding it in OpenSim.ini [2010/11/09 11:23] UnOriginal Names: ok [2010/11/09 11:23]  Richardus Raymaker: voice works out of the box with my imprucence [2010/11/09 11:23] Nebadon Izumi: music and parcel settings will carry with you from previous sim [2010/11/09 11:23] Nebadon Izumi: until you actually cross a parcel in the new sim it wont update [2010/11/09 11:23] Nebadon Izumi: we need to fix that soon [2010/11/09 11:23] UnOriginal Names: andrew, are you looking for a parcel with voice? [2010/11/09 11:23] Andrew Hellershanks: I'm trying to get voice working in OpenSIm [2010/11/09 11:24] UnOriginal Names: aww [2010/11/09 11:24] Nebadon Izumi: Andrew you should talk to Snoopy on IRC [2010/11/09 11:24] Nebadon Izumi: she can help [2010/11/09 11:24] Nebadon Izumi: she probably knows better than anyone how to make freeswitch work [2010/11/09 11:24] Richardus Raymaker: it worked with 0.6.9 for em, not tried 0.7 [2010/11/09 11:24] Andrew Hellershanks: neb, ok. I try and follow the online notes in wiki's but it never seems to work for me. [2010/11/09 11:25] Andrew Hellershanks: or it only worked for one parcel [2010/11/09 11:25] Richardus Raymaker: here comes some maby usefull links [2010/11/09 11:25] Richardus Raymaker: http://maxping.org/resources/how-to/install/freeswitch-on-ubunutu.aspx [2010/11/09 11:25] Andrew Hellershanks: Don't know why there isn't a new pre-compiled version of FreeSwitch on their site. They only have 1.0.4 but 1.0.6 is the most recent [2010/11/09 11:26] Andrew Hellershanks: Richardus, I was trying to put it on Windows servers [2010/11/09 11:26] Nebadon Izumi: I have only ever done freeswitch on Linux [2010/11/09 11:26] Nebadon Izumi: Bluewall and I worked on it ages ago [2010/11/09 11:27] Andrew Hellershanks: it shouldn't be that different unless 1.0.4 is broken and you need something more recent [2010/11/09 11:27] Nebadon Izumi: but once OSgrid got Vivox we shut freeswitch off [2010/11/09 11:27] Richardus Raymaker: oh, only done it under linux [2010/11/09 11:27] Nebadon Izumi: but now we dont have Vivox anymore [2010/11/09 11:27] Andrew Hellershanks: Vivox? Isn't that the one you had to pay for? [2010/11/09 11:27] Nebadon Izumi: i havent looked at the voice stuff in ages [2010/11/09 11:27] Nebadon Izumi: yes [2010/11/09 11:27] Richardus Raymaker: opensim works with 1.0.6 [2010/11/09 11:27] Nebadon Izumi: They donated a 20,000 user license to us for a while [2010/11/09 11:27] Nebadon Izumi: but i think they got cold feet on the deal [2010/11/09 11:27] Andrew Hellershanks: Nice of them [2010/11/09 11:27] BlueWall Slade: I started working with it again, but vivox posted some message about not using the client outside SL [2010/11/09 11:27]  Nebadon Izumi: decided there was no profit in OpenSimulator for them [2010/11/09 11:27] Nebadon Izumi: and they pulled out of the deal [2010/11/09 11:28] Richardus Raymaker: big head madness ? [2010/11/09 11:28] Nebadon Izumi: honeslty Vivox is not a good fit for OpenSim [2010/11/09 11:28] Andrew Hellershanks: I'll compile fs 1.0.6 for Linux and see if I can make that work. If it does, I'll have to install a C compiler for Windows and build my own FS there. [2010/11/09 11:28] Nebadon Izumi: the minimum license package is 20,000 users [2010/11/09 11:28] Andrew Hellershanks: wow. [2010/11/09 11:28] Nebadon Izumi: they are used to dealing with vendors that need 500,000 account packages [2010/11/09 11:28] Nebadon Izumi: like Linden Lab [2010/11/09 11:30] Richardus Raymaker: i think its bad business for them to keep big packadges like that. especially when you get only more and more small grids and sims [2010/11/09 11:30] Nebadon Izumi: well Vivox is a gigantic company [2010/11/09 11:30] Richardus Raymaker: company's that want own sim dont need 20.000 [2010/11/09 11:30] Nebadon Izumi: they deal with EA, and Ubisoft and Linden Lab [2010/11/09 11:30] Nebadon Izumi: companies like that [2010/11/09 11:30] Nebadon Izumi: there is no profit it in for them to sell 50 user accounts [2010/11/09 11:30] Richardus Raymaker: then go for mumble [2010/11/09 11:30] Nebadon Izumi: ya [2010/11/09 11:31]  Nebadon Izumi: I hope snoopy's group can get that stuff licensed properly and available for everyone [2010/11/09 11:31] Justin Clark-Casey: afaik mumble for opensim was never released, right? [2010/11/09 11:31] Justin Clark-Casey: licensing is the hold up? [2010/11/09 11:31] Nebadon Izumi: the source was not yet [2010/11/09 11:31] Nebadon Izumi: not sure why they are taking so long [2010/11/09 11:31] BlueWall Slade: mumble is open [2010/11/09 11:31] Nebadon Izumi: they havent nailed down a license though [2010/11/09 11:31] Nebadon Izumi: I mean the OpenSim stuff [2010/11/09 11:31] BlueWall Slade: the whisper isn't [2010/11/09 11:31]  Nebadon Izumi: not mumble itself [2010/11/09 11:31] Nebadon Izumi: ya [2010/11/09 11:31]  Nebadon Izumi: ya Whisper [2010/11/09 11:31] Nebadon Izumi: i couldnt remember what it was called [2010/11/09 11:31] Nebadon Izumi: hehe [2010/11/09 11:32] Richardus Raymaker: sofar i kow its not finished for all platforms [2010/11/09 11:32] Justin Clark-Casey: unless they're somehow using proprietary code in their plugin I'm not sure what the hold up would be [2010/11/09 11:32]  Dorothea Lundquist is Offline [2010/11/09 11:32] Andrew Hellershanks: Richardus, I like that maxping site. Info on setting up FS for Ubuntu and it is an asp page [2010/11/09 11:32] Nebadon Izumi: ya i know it was only windows so far [2010/11/09 11:32] Nebadon Izumi: i'll ask snoopy whats up when we talk again [2010/11/09 11:32] Richardus Raymaker: lol andrew. not looked at the asp [2010/11/09 11:33] Andrew Hellershanks: ASP is Windows. I haven't touched ASP [2010/11/09 11:33] Richardus Raymaker: so, to ask again at 01.00 utc osgrid switches to new vesion ? [2010/11/09 11:33] Richardus Raymaker: i know andrew. [2010/11/09 11:33] Nebadon Izumi: yes Richardus [2010/11/09 11:33] Nebadon Izumi: grid will be down for a few mintues [2010/11/09 11:33] Nebadon Izumi: as i switch it over [2010/11/09 11:33] Nebadon Izumi: then everyone can run new version [2010/11/09 11:34] Andrew Hellershanks: The one thing about setting up FS was when you can use localhost references in the OpenSim.ini file to simplify set up when copying an ini to multiple servers [2010/11/09 11:34] Richardus Raymaker: it ould be nice if somneone could track of possible required changes in ini files. but i dont think much changed this time [2010/11/09 11:35] Nebadon Izumi: I already did Richardus [2010/11/09 11:35] Nebadon Izumi: lol [2010/11/09 11:35] sim core: :-J [2010/11/09 11:35] Nebadon Izumi: did you even read the news pages? [2010/11/09 11:35] Nebadon Izumi: there is 1 change that is not required [2010/11/09 11:35] Richardus Raymaker: yes i saw nebadon. but it where maby only this time. thansk [2010/11/09 11:35] Helena Franizzi is Offline [2010/11/09 11:35] Richardus Raymaker: made that change some time ago [2010/11/09 11:35] Nebadon Izumi: really there are no mandatory changes [2010/11/09 11:35] sim core: :-J And it's there, by default [2010/11/09 11:35] Nebadon Izumi: just the async packet handling option [2010/11/09 11:36] Nebadon Izumi: ya i think currently its automaticlly on true anyway [2010/11/09 11:36] Nebadon Izumi: but that might not always be the case [2010/11/09 11:36] Nebadon Izumi: depending on how testing goes [2010/11/09 11:36] Richardus Raymaker: hmm, nebadon. if you play video and press stop the screen stay grey. just like there's no texture loaded [2010/11/09 11:36] Nebadon Izumi: i think for most everyone it will be an improvment [2010/11/09 11:36] Nebadon Izumi: ya ive seen that happen to Richardus [2010/11/09 11:36] Nebadon Izumi: not sure why it does that [2010/11/09 11:36] Justin Clark-Casey: I see http://www.osgrid.org/stats/ went away? [2010/11/09 11:37] Nebadon Izumi: it will eventually switch back [2010/11/09 11:37] Richardus Raymaker: ok. [2010/11/09 11:37] Nebadon Izumi: ya i havent set that back up yet Justin [2010/11/09 11:37] Nebadon Izumi: something i gotta do still [2010/11/09 11:37] Justin Clark-Casey: ok, no worries- just curious [2010/11/09 11:37] Nebadon Izumi: we still have a lot of website work to do still [2010/11/09 11:37] Justin Clark-Casey: yeah, I imagine [2010/11/09 11:38] Andrew Hellershanks: I've been trying to get motivated to do some website work I need to do. [2010/11/09 11:38] Nebadon Izumi: heh ya [2010/11/09 11:38]  Nebadon Izumi: php stuff is not very exciting anymore [2010/11/09 11:38] Nebadon Izumi: lol [2010/11/09 11:38] Nebadon Izumi: its starting to feel like spreadsheet work or something [2010/11/09 11:38] Andrew Hellershanks: Its neat seeing the result but a little tedious to get thigns set up [2010/11/09 11:39]  Andrew Hellershanks: what I need to do isn't even as interesting as PHP work. Its writing content. [2010/11/09 11:39] Justin Clark-Casey: I think that's one of the reasons why people swtich to RoR :) [2010/11/09 11:39]  Andrew Hellershanks: I don't know Ruby [2010/11/09 11:39]  Nebadon Izumi: heh ya me either [2010/11/09 11:39]  Nebadon Izumi: i hear mixed things about it [2010/11/09 11:40]  Andrew Hellershanks: It does seem interesting on the one hand. I wanted to get in to Python first [2010/11/09 11:40]  Jacek Antonelli hisses and makes the sign of the cross to ward off Rails. [2010/11/09 11:40]  Justin Clark-Casey: yes [2010/11/09 11:40]  Nebadon Izumi: lol [2010/11/09 11:40]  Andrew Hellershanks: Jacek, :-) [2010/11/09 11:40] Justin Clark-Casey: jacek: ha, really? :) [2010/11/09 11:41] Richardus Raymaker: i wish there where a good PHP IDE development for linux. [2010/11/09 11:41]  Jacek Antonelli: I absolutely adore Ruby, but despise Rails. I think of it as Ruby's douchebag boyfriend. [2010/11/09 11:41]  BlueWall Slade: eclipse [2010/11/09 11:41]  Justin Clark-Casey: lol, alright :) [2010/11/09 11:41] Richardus Raymaker: uff, very complex. i think it never worked good here. need to test again [2010/11/09 11:41] Andrew Hellershanks: Eclipse is the one I think [2010/11/09 11:41] Justin Clark-Casey: richardus: aptana seems quite good. I've just started using it for javascript [2010/11/09 11:41] Justin Clark-Casey: I finally got tired of writing in vim [2010/11/09 11:42] Justin Clark-Casey: yeah, aptana is on eclipse [2010/11/09 11:42] Jacek Antonelli: If you want a nice lightweight web framework for Ruby, Sinatra is very nice. But, other languages are good too. [2010/11/09 11:42] BlueWall Slade: dont' let Melanie hear you say that :p [2010/11/09 11:42] Andrew Hellershanks: I think Eclipse is one of those things that handles all kinds of languages. I haven't really used an IDE since I last used Borland C [2010/11/09 11:42] Justin Clark-Casey: eclipse does java by default but you can get a lot of plugins. [2010/11/09 11:42] Richardus Raymaker: need to find aptana. and compile it myself i guess [2010/11/09 11:42] Justin Clark-Casey: aptana is a whole framework for editing html/css/js, etc. [2010/11/09 11:42]  BlueWall Slade: eclipse/aptania does python too [2010/11/09 11:42] Justin Clark-Casey: http://www.aptana.com/ [2010/11/09 11:43] Justin Clark-Casey: yeah, I heard they just re-enabled their php support [2010/11/09 11:43] Richardus Raymaker: oh thats problem with many software. does it support largere fonts higher dpi ? [2010/11/09 11:43] Richardus Raymaker: i think thats why i stopped useing both [2010/11/09 11:43] Richardus Raymaker: python. thats nice [2010/11/09 11:43] Justin Clark-Casey: you can change all kinds of font and size settings in eclipse. Anyway, this is kind of offtopic [2010/11/09 11:44] Richardus Raymaker: so, uhmm what topic now ? [2010/11/09 11:44] Andrew Hellershanks: Spin the wheel of topics and see what comes up. :-) [2010/11/09 11:45] sim core: Where to find info on ossl, would be nice ;) [2010/11/09 11:45] Jacek Antonelli: New topic: Kittens. Cute animals, or _the cutest_ animals? [2010/11/09 11:46] Justin Clark-Casey: in theory http://opensimulator.org/wiki/OSSL_Implemented but it's out of date [2010/11/09 11:46] Penny Lane: I spun the topics arrow, and it landed on "Neb's socks drawer". That can't be right. [2010/11/09 11:46] Nebadon Izumi: lol [2010/11/09 11:46] Jacek Antonelli wonders what secret things are hidden in his sock drawer... [2010/11/09 11:46] Justin Clark-Casey: jacek: I'm preferring bacteria nowadays [2010/11/09 11:46] Richardus Raymaker: i hope with the new version i can attach some attachments again. [2010/11/09 11:46] sim core: http://opensimulator.org/wiki/OsParcelSetDetails has absolutely no details on there [2010/11/09 11:46] Justin Clark-Casey: well you know, ppl just don't write documentation [2010/11/09 11:46] sim core: Hehe [2010/11/09 11:47] Jacek Antonelli: Are bacteria cute? I guess kittens are cute partly because they are small... so maybe bacteria are even cuter, because they are even smaller? [2010/11/09 11:47] Nebadon Izumi: lol [2010/11/09 11:47] Justin Clark-Casey: lol [2010/11/09 11:47] sim core: I will do the sun setting page, I figured that much out... [2010/11/09 11:47] BlueWall Slade: I added the parcel id to llGetParcelDetails [2010/11/09 11:47] BlueWall Slade: it's still setting in mantis [2010/11/09 11:47] Justin Clark-Casey: The bit in my brain that recognizes 'cute' is missing [2010/11/09 11:47] Nebadon Izumi: did that patch ever make it into core yet BlueWall? [2010/11/09 11:47] BlueWall Slade: no [2010/11/09 11:47]  Nebadon Izumi: maybe justin can you take a look at that? [2010/11/09 11:47] Andrew Hellershanks: jacek, nah. Can't see bacteria with the naked eye. They also don't purr [2010/11/09 11:47] Nebadon Izumi: whats the Mantis again bluewall? [2010/11/09 11:48] BlueWall Slade: let me see - 1 sec [2010/11/09 11:48] Nebadon Izumi: it looked like a simple enough patch [2010/11/09 11:48] Justin Clark-Casey: but they are fascinating creatures [2010/11/09 11:48] BlueWall Slade: http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=5188 [2010/11/09 11:48] Nebadon Izumi: only the squigly eye line [2010/11/09 11:48] Nebadon Izumi: hehe [2010/11/09 11:48] Andrew Hellershanks: sim you are looking for the flag bit settings for parcel details? [2010/11/09 11:48] BlueWall Slade: I didn't look at viewer source yet, lol [2010/11/09 11:49] Justin Clark-Casey: ok, so just submitted yesterday [2010/11/09 11:49] Dedal Chrome: Hello [2010/11/09 11:49] Justin Clark-Casey: when I can on a friday I look at the outstanding patches and aply them. I was busy last fri [2010/11/09 11:49] Andrew Hellershanks: Hello, Dedal [2010/11/09 11:49] Justin Clark-Casey: bluewall: heh [2010/11/09 11:49] Helena Franizzi is Online [2010/11/09 11:49] Dedal Chrome: i just login in and im interesting what diferents is betwen sl and osgrid? [2010/11/09 11:49] Richardus Raymaker: fryday 13th 2013 ? [2010/11/09 11:50] Justin Clark-Casey: so, you guys using kokua? [2010/11/09 11:50] Justin Clark-Casey: yep, fri 13th :) [2010/11/09 11:50]  Richardus Raymaker: no [2010/11/09 11:50]  Dedal Chrome: can someone tell me :) [2010/11/09 11:50] BlueWall Slade: SL - it breaks, it never gets fixed .... [2010/11/09 11:50] BlueWall Slade: OpenSim - it breaks, you get to fix it [2010/11/09 11:50]  BlueWall Slade: :p [2010/11/09 11:51] Justin Clark-Casey smiles [2010/11/09 11:51] Nebadon Izumi: hehe [2010/11/09 11:51] Justin Clark-Casey: both are quite capable of screwing you over ;) [2010/11/09 11:51]  Dedal Chrome: its onlu diferent :) [2010/11/09 11:51] Andrew Hellershanks: kokua? [2010/11/09 11:51] Nebadon Izumi: no Economy here [2010/11/09 11:51] sim core: :-) Well, the rukes list would be nice andrew OsParcelSetDetails,Threat-Level=High,Returns: NULL,Command: osParcelSetDetails(vector pos, list rules) ;,Requires Examples. [2010/11/09 11:52]  Andrew Hellershanks: sim, let me check the source file [2010/11/09 11:52]  sim core: *Rules [2010/11/09 11:52]  Dedal Chrome: i see upload is free [2010/11/09 11:52]  Nebadon Izumi: yes there are no charges here [2010/11/09 11:53]  Nebadon Izumi: only charges would be if you lease hardware to host your simulators [2010/11/09 11:53]  Dedal Chrome: host my simulator ? [2010/11/09 11:53]  Nebadon Izumi: if you wanted to run your own simulator [2010/11/09 11:53]  Dedal Chrome: you mean sim ? [2010/11/09 11:53]  sim core: :-) [2010/11/09 11:53] Nebadon Izumi: yes [2010/11/09 11:53] Richardus Raymaker: yes run it from home, rent dedicated server and host it yourself. or..... [2010/11/09 11:53] UnOriginal Names: omg it's good to have food in the tummy [2010/11/09 11:54] Nebadon Izumi: you can run it from home for Free [2010/11/09 11:54] Nebadon Izumi: but alot of people rent servers in data centers [2010/11/09 11:54] Dedal Chrome: ohh interesting [2010/11/09 11:54] UnOriginal Names: or pay a small fee to rent a sim [2010/11/09 11:54] Miki.Gymnast @tikitronic.com: good evening [2010/11/09 11:54] Penny Lane: Dedal, I'll give you a landmark to Lbsa Plaza, where there's a lot of good info and socializing. [2010/11/09 11:54] Dedal Chrome: thnks [2010/11/09 11:54] Justin Clark-Casey: hello miki [2010/11/09 11:54] Dedal Chrome: i have last questions ;) [2010/11/09 11:55]  Dedal Chrome: is diferent betwen OS$ and L$ ? [2010/11/09 11:55]  Dedal Chrome: i mean price for real money [2010/11/09 11:55]  Nebadon Izumi: we dont do any currency in the grid here [2010/11/09 11:55]  BlueWall Slade: we're broke here [2010/11/09 11:55]  BlueWall Slade: no money [2010/11/09 11:55]  UnOriginal Names: lol [2010/11/09 11:55]  Andrew Hellershanks: sim, did you look at http://lslwiki.net/lslwiki/wakka.php?wakka=llGetParcelDetails [2010/11/09 11:55]  UnOriginal Names: everything is free [2010/11/09 11:55]  Dedal Chrome: ohhh thnks :) [2010/11/09 11:55] BlueWall Slade: look for Snoopies [2010/11/09 11:55] Andrew Hellershanks: sim, that is a get but looking at the os function to set details, it appears to follow that same structure [2010/11/09 11:55] Miki.Gymnast @tikitronic.com: i sell you 500 os$ if you transfer me 20kL$ in sl [2010/11/09 11:55]  BlueWall Slade: they gave lots of free things [2010/11/09 11:56] Nebadon Izumi: some grids do have emerging economies [2010/11/09 11:56] Nebadon Izumi: but OSgrid is a Non-Profit corporation [2010/11/09 11:56] Nebadon Izumi: we intend to keep this grid free of a grid wide economy and currency [2010/11/09 11:56] UnOriginal Names: ooo, emergingi economies, which one? [2010/11/09 11:56] Dedal Chrome: ok thnks for anser now i will go to se this LM [2010/11/09 11:56]  Dedal Chrome: Bye [2010/11/09 11:56] Nebadon Izumi: heh sorry i wont promote them [2010/11/09 11:56] UnOriginal Names: lol [2010/11/09 11:56] Nebadon Izumi: im sure if you google you can find some [2010/11/09 11:57] sim core: :-) Good idea andrew, I'll report my testing then [2010/11/09 11:58]  sim core: :-) Thanks [2010/11/09 11:58] Andrew Hellershanks: sim: yw [2010/11/09 11:58]  Justin Clark-Casey: nebadon: did this seating change? I see we're all a bit recessed no the couch now [2010/11/09 11:58] Justin Clark-Casey: on [2010/11/09 11:58]  Andrew Hellershanks: sim, if it works ok, you can update the wiki page for that function. :-) [2010/11/09 11:58] sim core: :-) Indeed [2010/11/09 11:59] Nebadon Izumi: ya i rebuilt the couch a bit Justin [2010/11/09 11:59] Nebadon Izumi: same basic shape [2010/11/09 11:59] Nebadon Izumi: the old one not as cushiony [2010/11/09 11:59] Nebadon Izumi: hehe [2010/11/09 11:59] Andrew Hellershanks: I thought the couch was a little different [2010/11/09 11:59] Nebadon Izumi: i need some better sit poses [2010/11/09 11:59] Justin Clark-Casey: Don't think I've seen a couch anywhere near this big irl [2010/11/09 12:00] Nebadon Izumi: hehe [2010/11/09 12:00] Nebadon Izumi: ya [2010/11/09 12:00]  Andrew Hellershanks: :-) [2010/11/09 12:00]  Nebadon Izumi: you would need a megaphone in real world [2010/11/09 12:00]  Jacek Antonelli: This is EPIC COUCH. [2010/11/09 12:00]  Nebadon Izumi: lol [2010/11/09 12:00]  Richardus Raymaker: uhmm coverments ? [2010/11/09 12:00]  Justin Clark-Casey: this is truly god's own couch [2010/11/09 12:00]  BlueWall Slade: heh, I remember when we had something liek stadium seating here [2010/11/09 12:00]  Nebadon Izumi: hehehe [2010/11/09 12:00]  Nebadon Izumi: lol ya ive gone through all kinds of configurations here [2010/11/09 12:00]  Nebadon Izumi: i think this is the best so far [2010/11/09 12:00]  BlueWall Slade: back when the Lindens used to visit [2010/11/09 12:01]  Nebadon Izumi: heh ya [2010/11/09 12:01]  Nebadon Izumi: i remember when the meetings were out front [2010/11/09 12:01]  Andrew Hellershanks: There is a raw file called Stadium that makes the land like one massive stadium [2010/11/09 12:01] Nebadon Izumi: on the landing zone [2010/11/09 12:01] BlueWall Slade: yep, lol [2010/11/09 12:01] Nebadon Izumi: i remember seeing that before Andrew [2010/11/09 12:01] Justin Clark-Casey: oh yeah, those were the days [2010/11/09 12:01] Nebadon Izumi: ya this region has come a long way [2010/11/09 12:02] BlueWall Slade: hehe, we were out there when that Linden said "Did you build all this in OpenSim" [2010/11/09 12:02] Nebadon Izumi: http://www.youtube.com/nebadon2025#p/u/126/ZBgQGOskXis [2010/11/09 12:02] Nebadon Izumi: lol ya [2010/11/09 12:02]  BlueWall Slade: "Nahhh - we stole it off your grid" [2010/11/09 12:02] Nebadon Izumi: i remember that [2010/11/09 12:02] BlueWall Slade: hehe [2010/11/09 12:02] Nebadon Izumi: I think thats the day LL started to panic [2010/11/09 12:02] Nebadon Izumi: that OpenSim might actually turn into a monster [2010/11/09 12:02] Nebadon Izumi: hehe [2010/11/09 12:03] BlueWall Slade: and logging into the OGP beta grid and jumping here with Hypergrid [2010/11/09 12:03] BlueWall Slade: lol [2010/11/09 12:03] Nebadon Izumi: that video link above [2010/11/09 12:03] Nebadon Izumi: you can see Wright Plaza in the early days [2010/11/09 12:03] Nebadon Izumi: back when you could poke your eye out on the sharp bushes [2010/11/09 12:03] Nebadon Izumi: lol [2010/11/09 12:03] BlueWall Slade: Haaa [2010/11/09 12:03] UnOriginal Names: video is dark [2010/11/09 12:04] Nebadon Izumi: wow [2010/11/09 12:04] Justin Clark-Casey: ok, I need to get back to work. See you later, folks [2010/11/09 12:04] Nebadon Izumi: look at the date on that video [2010/11/09 12:04] BlueWall Slade: see ya JCC [2010/11/09 12:04] Nebadon Izumi: 11/10/2007 [2010/11/09 12:04] sim core: :-) See-you, justin and all [2010/11/09 12:04]  UnOriginal Names: bye justin [2010/11/09 12:04]  Nebadon Izumi: thats exaclty 3 years ago [2010/11/09 12:04]  Richardus Raymaker: bye justin [2010/11/09 12:04]  Justin Clark-Casey waves [2010/11/09 12:04]  Nebadon Izumi: see ya Justin [2010/11/09 12:04]  Jacek Antonelli: take care JCC [2010/11/09 12:04]  Richardus Raymaker: hmm, try to move my cam in that move :))) [2010/11/09 12:04] Nebadon Izumi: im probably going to have to run soon myself im waiting on Cable Guys to get here [2010/11/09 12:04] Justin Clark-Casey is Offline [2010/11/09 12:04] Nebadon Izumi: to rewire my cable modem [2010/11/09 12:04] Nebadon Izumi: keeps cutting out on me at the worst moments [2010/11/09 12:05] Jacek Antonelli: good luck Neb [2010/11/09 12:05] BlueWall Slade: hope the nab it for you [2010/11/09 12:05] Nebadon Izumi: ya hopefully they dont show up right before the grid upgrade [2010/11/09 12:05] Nebadon Izumi: lol [2010/11/09 12:05] Nebadon Izumi: they said after 1pm [2010/11/09 12:05] BlueWall Slade: hehe [2010/11/09 12:05] Nebadon Izumi: my lluck they'll show up 1 minute before i have to start upgrade [2010/11/09 12:05] BlueWall Slade: give them cookies and milk and have them wait till you're done [2010/11/09 12:06] Nebadon Izumi: hehe ya [2010/11/09 12:06]  Nebadon Izumi: it wont take them long [2010/11/09 12:06] Nebadon Izumi: the modem will probably only be out for a few minutes [2010/11/09 12:06] Nebadon Izumi: most of the time will be running cable [2010/11/09 12:06] BlueWall Slade: is this your Pink Floyd video? [2010/11/09 12:06] Nebadon Izumi: this is up on youtube [2010/11/09 12:06] Nebadon Izumi: i didnt upload it [2010/11/09 12:06]  Andrew Hellershanks: I need to bug my cable guys about drop outs I'm getting. [2010/11/09 12:06] BlueWall Slade: ahhh, cool [2010/11/09 12:06] Tasha Violet is Offline [2010/11/09 12:06] Nebadon Izumi: it just crapped out on me [2010/11/09 12:06]  Nebadon Izumi: it will start again [2010/11/09 12:06] Nebadon Izumi: just wait [2010/11/09 12:06] Jacek Antonelli: I think I'll head out too. Take care, all :) [2010/11/09 12:06] BlueWall Slade: here too [2010/11/09 12:07]  Nebadon Izumi: I think imprudence has issues [2010/11/09 12:07]  Nebadon Izumi: streaming [2010/11/09 12:07]  BlueWall Slade: bye [2010/11/09 12:07]  Nebadon Izumi: its gstreamer [2010/11/09 12:07]  Nebadon Izumi: see you Jacek [2010/11/09 12:07]  Andrew Hellershanks: gstreamer :-P [2010/11/09 12:07]  UnOriginal Names: bye jacek [2010/11/09 12:07]  Nebadon Izumi: id like to see Imprudence switch over to ffmpeg [2010/11/09 12:07]  Nebadon Izumi: instead of gstreamer [2010/11/09 12:07]  Nebadon Izumi: imprudence+gstreamer has problems with long videos and syncing [2010/11/09 12:08]  Nebadon Izumi: it will eventually resync though [2010/11/09 12:08]  Andrew Hellershanks: I had lots of headaches trying to get video in SL/OS since it wanted to use gstreamer in Linux. Problem kind of went away after I switched distros [2010/11/09 12:08] Nebadon Izumi: ya [2010/11/09 12:08]  Nebadon Izumi: gstreamer is ok [2010/11/09 12:08]  Nebadon Izumi: quicktime would do much better [2010/11/09 12:08] Nebadon Izumi: with these massively long videos [2010/11/09 12:08] Nebadon Izumi: this video is 1 hour 20 minutes [2010/11/09 12:08] Nebadon Izumi: its like 350meg [2010/11/09 12:08] Andrew Hellershanks: gstreamer worked fine for me outside of SL/OS and a viewer but trying to get the viewer happy to use it was a pita [2010/11/09 12:09] Nebadon Izumi: ya its probably just different versions you get differnt results [2010/11/09 12:09] Andrew Hellershanks: 350meg file is about 45 minute video for me. [2010/11/09 12:09] BlueWall Slade: well, [2010/11/09 12:09] Nebadon Izumi: there are a crap load of extras for gstreamer too [2010/11/09 12:09] BlueWall Slade: it went south on me at the same time as you neb [2010/11/09 12:09] Nebadon Izumi: Andrew depends on the resolution and bitrate really [2010/11/09 12:09] Andrew Hellershanks: I had them all and it still wasn't working at first [2010/11/09 12:09] BlueWall Slade: so, what's up with that? [2010/11/09 12:09] BlueWall Slade: couldn't be the viewer?? [2010/11/09 12:09] Nebadon Izumi: ya its something in the viewer Bluewall [2010/11/09 12:09] Nebadon Izumi: it is we tested it [2010/11/09 12:09]  Andrew Hellershanks: I had gstreamer and the good, bad, and ugly add ons [2010/11/09 12:10] BlueWall Slade: both at the same time? [2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: we ran it in the viewer and mplayer [2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: at the same time [2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: and all 3 will hesitate at the same moment [2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: but mplayer recovers instantly [2010/11/09 12:10] BlueWall Slade: ok [2010/11/09 12:10]  Nebadon Izumi: and the viewer struggles to recover [2010/11/09 12:10] BlueWall Slade: I see, there was a blip in the service [2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: ya [2010/11/09 12:10]  BlueWall Slade: and Imp can't re-sync it [2010/11/09 12:10]  Nebadon Izumi: it will snap back eventually, it does suck [2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: right [2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: not as fast anyway [2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: there [2010/11/09 12:10] BlueWall Slade: there is is [2010/11/09 12:10]  Nebadon Izumi: its back [2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: did it come back for you? [2010/11/09 12:10] BlueWall Slade: yes [2010/11/09 12:10] UnOriginal Names is Online [2010/11/09 12:11] Nebadon Izumi: heh ya [2010/11/09 12:11]  BlueWall Slade: same instant [2010/11/09 12:11] Sammmy Galicia: Speaking of Imprudence, how do you think the Kokua Client/Server will help develop Opensim [2010/11/09 12:11] Nebadon Izumi: oh door brb [2010/11/09 12:11] BlueWall Slade: hmmmm [2010/11/09 12:11] UnOriginal Names: hb [2010/11/09 12:11]  Sammmy Galicia likes big topics lol [2010/11/09 12:12] UnOriginal Names: omg my sim is still down [2010/11/09 12:13] Nebadon Izumi: heh cable guy is here [2010/11/09 12:13] Nebadon Izumi: yay [2010/11/09 12:13] BlueWall Slade: hehe [2010/11/09 12:13] Nebadon Izumi: if i drop off you know why [2010/11/09 12:13] Nebadon Izumi: lol [2010/11/09 12:13] Nebadon Izumi: hes gotta dig new lines in 1st [2010/11/09 12:13] Nebadon Izumi: runnning all new cable outside [2010/11/09 12:13] Nebadon Izumi: what a pain [2010/11/09 12:13] BlueWall Slade: ohhh man, that should be nice [2010/11/09 12:13] Nebadon Izumi: ya [2010/11/09 12:13]  Nebadon Izumi: hopefully my damn net stops dropping [2010/11/09 12:14] Nebadon Izumi: and i dont get disconnect from 15 SSH windows simulataneiously [2010/11/09 12:14] Nebadon Izumi: grr [2010/11/09 12:14] Andrew Hellershanks: yeah, we had new lines run when I first got cable access to the net [2010/11/09 12:14] Nebadon Izumi: what a pain in the ass that is [2010/11/09 12:14]  Andrew Hellershanks: 15? [2010/11/09 12:14] Niki Bing: excuse me folks, is this the wright place for the osgrid meeting? [2010/11/09 12:14] Nebadon Izumi: lol ya [2010/11/09 12:14]  Nebadon Izumi: i have a bunch of servers [2010/11/09 12:14] UnOriginal Names: yes it is niki [2010/11/09 12:15] Andrew Hellershanks: Its winding down. Start just over an hour ago [2010/11/09 12:15] Nebadon Izumi: yes Niki bu the meeting is pretty much over [2010/11/09 12:15] Nebadon Izumi: ya its 11am PST every tuesday [2010/11/09 12:15] Nebadon Izumi: but feel free to hang out and chat [2010/11/09 12:15] Nebadon Izumi: we always run over the hour chatting for a bit [2010/11/09 12:15] Niki Bing: thx ... oh right, well I'm pretty much challenged time-zonally so no suprises there ... but thx, I'll know for next time :) [2010/11/09 12:15] Nebadon Izumi: hehe ya [2010/11/09 12:15]  Nebadon Izumi: it sucks [2010/11/09 12:16]  Nebadon Izumi: especially during the DST windows [2010/11/09 12:16]  Andrew Hellershanks: I really should get going. I have a couple birthday presents to wrap and I really should get more work done on the website I'm supposed to be working on. [2010/11/09 12:16]  Nebadon Izumi: hehe alright Andrew [2010/11/09 12:16]  Nebadon Izumi: thanks for coming [2010/11/09 12:16]  BlueWall Slade: heh, have fun [2010/11/09 12:16]  BlueWall Slade: I'm taking off too [2010/11/09 12:16]  Andrew Hellershanks: np. I like to hear more about what's going on. [2010/11/09 12:16]  Nebadon Izumi: oh bluewall here is the URL for pink floyd [2010/11/09 12:16]  Nebadon Izumi: its 1 parts [2010/11/09 12:16]  Nebadon Izumi: its like 2 1/2 hours [2010/11/09 12:17]  Nebadon Izumi: part 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV6PKfzkbeo [2010/11/09 12:17] Andrew Hellershanks: Once I get some of the web page content done I can get back to trying to finish classifieds in the profile module [2010/11/09 12:17] BlueWall Slade: cool [2010/11/09 12:17] Nebadon Izumi: part 2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEweoQMM_WM [2010/11/09 12:17] Nebadon Izumi: there is an awesome kraftwerk concert too [2010/11/09 12:17] BlueWall Slade: thanks, copied it down [2010/11/09 12:17] Andrew Hellershanks: Be interesting to check that out, nebadon [2010/11/09 12:17] Nebadon Izumi: kraftwerk part 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve5sXX_2LU0 [2010/11/09 12:18] Nebadon Izumi: kraftwerk part 2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ_grfKZGtY [2010/11/09 12:18] Andrew Hellershanks: cool. ty [2010/11/09 12:18] Nebadon Izumi: its awesome concert [2010/11/09 12:18] Nebadon Izumi: see ya :) [2010/11/09 12:18]  BlueWall Slade: thanks [2010/11/09 12:18]  Nebadon Izumi: no problem :) enjoy [2010/11/09 12:18] BlueWall Slade: upgrade - 5:00 pst ? [2010/11/09 12:18] Andrew Hellershanks: ok, take care everyone. Happy update day. :-) [2010/11/09 12:18] Nebadon Izumi: yes [2010/11/09 12:19]  BlueWall Slade: cool