Chat log from the meeting on 2016-09-13

[11:08] George.Equus @hg.osgrid.org: Just built me a Klein bottle, 2880 prims, went brilliantly, in about 1.5 hour. [11:09] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: Kayaker, If you want a Klein bottle you should talk to nebadon. He has made some really prim heavy ones. [11:09] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: Nice entrance, Don. You glided sideways across the floor to the couch. :) [11:10] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: humph. animations loading slow [11:10] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: =) [11:10] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: I love a good entrance [11:10] George.Equus @hg.osgrid.org: wax on, wax off [11:10] Sheera Khan: hmmm, Ubit seems to take a bit of a break from developement atm? [11:11] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: I was glad for every second he could spend on OpenSim problems [11:11] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: Hello Everyone!, I am Don Smith, of kitely, formerly of SL < 2006-2010 > [11:11] George.Equus @hg.osgrid.org: Back on a decent connection Andrew? [11:11] Sheera Khan: or are those changes more complicate then those before? [11:11] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: Sheera, it does appear Ubit took a deserved break this past week. Still been a few updates from him but not as many. [11:11] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: Welcome, Don. [11:11] Sheera Khan: I'm very happy about the progress made in the last weeks too :-) [11:12] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: ty [11:12] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: George, I've not had a problem with my connection. I did upgrade it a few weeks back. [11:12] George.Equus @hg.osgrid.org: Ooo, though you was moving... [11:13] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: No, not me. [11:13] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: You want to send me to somewhere nice and tropical and I may not object. :) [11:13] James.atLLOUD @hg.osgrid.org: HI Don - my home grid is Kitely. :) [11:13] George.Equus @hg.osgrid.org: I remember wrong... though was you [11:13] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: Melanie was in the process of moving and was waiting for her new internet connectin. [11:15] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: nebadon, Kayaker said he built himself a Klein bottle. How big was the bottle you made in terms of prims and how long did it take to generate? [11:15] George.Equus @hg.osgrid.org: Was me Andrew [11:15] Nebadon Izumi: mine was generated by a script from Zonja Capalini [11:15] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: oops. yea, I just noticed I got the name wrong. Sorry, George. [11:15] James.atLLOUD @hg.osgrid.org: Why so many prims? many small triangles? [11:15] Nebadon Izumi: you could adjust how many segments it was etc.. [11:16] Nebadon Izumi: it was a lot though [11:16] Nebadon Izumi: 40-50k prims [11:16] George.Equus @hg.osgrid.org: same script I think, Neb, Works brilliantly [11:16] George.Equus @hg.osgrid.org: 2880 and some in the one I made [11:16] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: prims? Not a mesh Klein bottle? [11:16] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: nebadon doesn't make items with small prim counts. :) [11:16] George.Equus @hg.osgrid.org: all prims Kayaker [11:17] James.atLLOUD @hg.osgrid.org flüstert: @mesh - had the same thought [11:17] Nebadon Izumi: yea that script is great for load testing :) [11:18] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org nods [11:18] James.atLLOUD @hg.osgrid.org: OK - a higher purpose [11:18] George.Equus @hg.osgrid.org: then I am good :)  didn't crash anything [11:18] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: The Klein bottle generator and the Sierpinski triangle generator are both good for that. [11:18] Nebadon Izumi: I have a dome generator around too [11:19] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: Oh GAWD! Sierpinski would load the sim [11:19] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: So do I but it doesn't make an object with very high prim counts. [11:19] George.Equus @hg.osgrid.org: Ohh yes, me too I think... made really beautiful domes in two sizes [11:19] Nebadon Izumi: I'll drop a copy on everyone [11:19] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: ty [11:19] George.Equus @hg.osgrid.org: Sierpinsky is new to me, not heard of that one b4 [11:19] Nebadon Izumi: you are welcome I sort of forget exactly how to use it now [11:20] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: Thanks Neb [11:20] Nebadon Izumi: I think basically [11:20] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: That script looks like the one I already have but I'll have to check the version number. [11:20] George.Equus @hg.osgrid.org: Thanks Neb [11:20] Nebadon Izumi: you drop the Line and Triangle objects into a prim [11:20] Nebadon Izumi: with the rezzer script [11:20] Nebadon Izumi: then click it [11:20] Nebadon Izumi: you can adjust dome variables in the rezzer script [11:20] Grid: Nebadon Izumi hat Ihnen folgendes übergeben Geodesic Dome Builder v1.1. [11:20] Nebadon Izumi: if you want to be the creator of the prims [11:20] Nebadon Izumi: you have to take the triangle and line scripts [11:20] George.Equus @hg.osgrid.org: Same procedure as for the Klein If I recall correctly [11:20] Nebadon Izumi: and drop them into your own prims [11:20] Nebadon Izumi: then put those prims inside a nother prim with the rezzer script [11:21] Nebadon Izumi: if you have ever seen Universal Campus or OKC Tower [11:21] Nebadon Izumi: this is how i made those domes :) [11:21] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: The line and triangle objects each need the appropriate script in them before you put those prims in to the rezzer prim [11:22] Nebadon Izumi: http://nebadon2025.com/screenshots/okc_tower_2012-002.png [11:22] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: I was working on the math for a slightly different type of dome rezzer that would use square panels instead of triangles but I never finished it. [11:22] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: Might I ask, what main thing are currently being fixed, and /or what main thing will be soon? [11:22] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: in regard to OS [11:23] Nebadon Izumi: you can look at the change logs here > http://opensimulator.org/viewgit/?a=shortlog&p=opensim [11:23] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: There isn't a specific list of items being worked on. [11:23] Nebadon Izumi: We generally do not have a road map [11:23] Nebadon Izumi: usually developers just work on what interests them [11:24] Nebadon Izumi: or has the most affect on their projects [11:24] George.Equus @hg.osgrid.org: Sierpinski triangle... so that's what it is on my roof top  lol   Thanks Neb, really nice! [11:24] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: I tried to write a script to make genera quadrangles out of two triangles and found there are quantized limits on shearing blocks [11:24] Nebadon Izumi: :) ya [11:24] Nebadon Izumi: i actually made that thing by hand [11:24] Nebadon Izumi: haha [11:24] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: Can't do it with the build tools either [11:25] George.Equus @hg.osgrid.org: got two spinning inside each other [11:25] Nebadon Izumi: haha this is the original one [11:25] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: That rezzed rather quickly [11:25] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: How might a cohesive plan be started to address major concerns in an organized fashion? [11:25] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: There goes the simulator.... [11:25] Nebadon Izumi: lol [11:25] George.Equus @hg.osgrid.org: that's the one [11:25] Nebadon Izumi: I have a mesh version some where too [11:26] George.Equus @hg.osgrid.org: got four two by two base to base and a spin script added [11:26] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: Don, an organized list of things to work on can be a good thing but it still comes down to who can work on the various issues. [11:26] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: and please forgive my brashness, i in no way want to take away from thanks for all the work you guys do! [11:26] Nebadon Izumi: feel free to grab a copy of them :) [11:27] Nebadon Izumi: the mesh one is way more efficient lol [11:27] Nebadon Izumi: actually if you really want to go nuts [11:27] George.Equus @hg.osgrid.org: grabbed the mesh version, thanks :) [11:27] Nebadon Izumi: i have a huge OAR version [11:27] Nebadon Izumi: it's insane [11:27] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: Don, np. We have had some sessions here that were mostly just a lot of complaints about the amount of development, or lack of same, and what was being worked on. [11:27] Nebadon Izumi: http://nebadon2025.com/oars/sierpinski_triangle_122572_prims_01.oar [11:28] Nebadon Izumi: 122,572 prim version [11:28] Nebadon Izumi: of this pyramid [11:28] Nebadon Izumi: lol [11:28] Nebadon Izumi: also made by hand haha [11:28] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: yea, I thought you had something that was over 100,000 prims. Wasn't sure if it was this or the Klein bottle. [11:28] Nebadon Izumi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWPVFN1mxcg [11:29] Nebadon Izumi: I forgot Latif uploaded that hah [11:29] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: I'm getting closer to the point where I can update the OS search and profile modules to use PDO in the PHP files. [11:29] Nebadon Izumi: nice [11:29] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: I've been working on getting a couple other projects off my todo list. [11:30] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: my interest is only positive for all of us, I am meeting tomorrow with Selby Evan of kitely, his New Media Arts initiative is in planning stages, so i am interested in 1) getting to know who;'s who, 2) trying to see if there is a way for many to work on a plan to move OS9.0 into full stability in a relative short period of time and keep everyone happy doing it [11:31] Nebadon Izumi: great, Selby is very active [11:31] Nebadon Izumi: OSCC is coming up [11:31] Nebadon Izumi: you might be interested in volunteering to help with that [11:31] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: agreed [11:31] Nebadon Izumi: we will probably have some more info next week on how to volunteer for that [11:31] Nebadon Izumi: though just a heads up I wont be here next week [11:31] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: There has been talking of an official release of 0.9 before the summer is over. That might be held up a little with Melanie in the middle of moving but Ubit has been busy fixing all sorts of issues. [11:31] Nebadon Izumi: I will be at a Conference in Belgium [11:32] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: So Selby has contacted you Deb? I got the impression his initiative was being planned in a vaccuum [11:32] Nebadon Izumi: but maybe James can fill you in [11:33] Nebadon Izumi: well I know Selby, we have been in contact in the past [11:33] Nebadon Izumi: I am friends with him on facebook too [11:33] Nebadon Izumi: I am not currently working with him on anything though [11:33] Nebadon Izumi: he will probably be at OSCC though [11:33] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: I'm still just beginning to look into this, to see if my management skills can be of any assistance to this. [11:33] James.atLLOUD @hg.osgrid.org: I'm aware of a Google+ chat that got pretty deep into this [11:33] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: You know about his OpenSim funding plan? [11:34] Nebadon Izumi: I have heard some chatter but I dont know the exact details [11:34] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: Kayaker, Do you have details about that? [11:34] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: No, not really [11:34] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: I have some basic info [11:35] James.atLLOUD @hg.osgrid.org: relevant Google+ thread: https://plus.google.com/103954483128646555393/posts/QrjUmvhZXAH [11:35] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: he is sponsoring up to 20,000 usd in moneys to be used, with matching donations, to be aquired, to be used in a planned < not finding my words today sorry > innitiative to move 9.0 into reality across the HG [11:36] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: 9.0 and beyond, giving OS a better road map for all to follow [11:36] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: hm... someone things C# is an obscure language [11:37] Nebadon Izumi: That is not really true any more [11:37] Nebadon Izumi: C# and .net are quite mainstream [11:37] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: yea. That's what I thought. [11:37] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: I am not a coder, But i do have other skill i only hope contribute to any successful plan. [11:37] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: skills, rofl [11:38] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: I am having a day [11:38] Nebadon Izumi: Ya I think its the good the community takes part in it [11:38] Nebadon Izumi: strictly relying on the developers is not a good plan :) [11:38] Nebadon Izumi: our time is very limited [11:38] James.atLLOUD @hg.osgrid.org: I have great sympathy Don. [11:38] Nebadon Izumi: and our interests tend to be quite focused [11:38] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: The first two items of Physics and documentation of the code are definitely up there in the list of things needed. [11:38] Nebadon Izumi: not always on the community at large [11:39] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: understandable [11:39] Nebadon Izumi: You guys should definitely get as involved as you can in OSCC [11:39] Nebadon Izumi: if you want to make any of this a reality [11:39] Nebadon Izumi: its the best chance at really reaching the entire community [11:39] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: I keep remembering I need to finish the summary of the avination code dump. [11:39] Nebadon Izumi: perhaps can even help sponsor the event [11:39] James.atLLOUD @hg.osgrid.org: Good advice Nebadon. [11:40] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: I know its partly ineffective communication between everyone directly involved, i have observed that already [11:40] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: OSCC, do you have a link or other info on that? [11:41] Nebadon Izumi: http://conference.opensimulator.org [11:41] Nebadon Izumi: for a long time I played the role of bridge between the community and the developers but its getting harder and harder for me to be that guy [11:41] James.atLLOUD @hg.osgrid.org: Don, I meet with the organizing team - I can send you info. [11:41] Nebadon Izumi: its not 100% updated yet [11:41] Nebadon Izumi: but you can get an idea of stuff there [11:41] James.atLLOUD @hg.osgrid.org: Neb too [11:41] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: ty [11:41] Nebadon Izumi: and probably next week we will have a better working website and registration forms for volunteers [11:41] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: ok [11:41] Nebadon Izumi: and people who want to sponsor and be presenters [11:41] Nebadon Izumi: James will fill you guys in next week here at this meeting [11:42] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: Looking forward to it [11:42] Nebadon Izumi: also I asked joyce to join us here in the next few weeks for one of these meetings too [11:42] James.atLLOUD @hg.osgrid.org: Call for proposals is up: http://conference.opensimulator.org/2016/speakers/call-for-proposals/ [11:42] Nebadon Izumi: as soon as we get some of this other stuff finalized [11:42] Nebadon Izumi: then we can give you guys a better picture of how things are going down [11:42] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: thats how a plan begins, ty [11:43] Nebadon Izumi: I am not sure that link above is 100% ready for public [11:43] Nebadon Izumi: but if you guys go over the site let us know if you find anything that looks wrong [11:43] Nebadon Izumi: stuff from 2015 etc.. [11:43] James.atLLOUD @hg.osgrid.org: Oh sorry Neb, I thought it is. [11:43] Nebadon Izumi: it may be James [11:43] Nebadon Izumi: i just dont know [11:43] Nebadon Izumi: its no problem to show it now, I am just not sure its 100% ready yet [11:44] Nebadon Izumi: it might change a little etc.. [11:44] Nebadon Izumi: we will need volunteers though to help prepare the venues etc.. [11:44] Nebadon Izumi: do some building [11:44] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: My hope is that with the new funding initiative, it will be enough incentive for everyone to come together enough for all to move satisfactory forward. [11:44] James.atLLOUD @hg.osgrid.org: Just reviewed chat and Joyce said root and call can be shared: You can share the http://bit.ly/oscc16 link [11:44] Nebadon Izumi: coordinators, streaming volunteers [11:44] Nebadon Izumi: greeters [11:45] Nebadon Izumi: there will be a lot of different ways to help out [11:45] Nebadon Izumi: ok great thanks James [11:45] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: It will be an honor to help in any capacity i can [11:46] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: If someone was tossing some $ my way I'd be more inclined to get the code change review finished. After that is getting a summary of all the changes since the big merge. [11:46] James.atLLOUD @hg.osgrid.org: I have a sense that funding can also threaten the 'open' in open source. [11:46] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: and if it is helpfull, i am no ordinary builder, if my skills there can assist anyone, just let me know [11:47] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: Don, always lots to be done to get ready for the OSCC. [11:47] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: i would normally agree, but its not just money being thrown into a project, its going to be managed in a way for positive results, for OS overall, not individual agenda's [11:47] Nebadon Izumi: yea soon we will start having wider meetings where everyone can get involved [11:48] Nebadon Izumi: and you can find something that suits your interest to help out with [11:48] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: =) [11:48] Nebadon Izumi: right now its sort of core people are getting the ball rolling [11:48] Nebadon Izumi: you can visit the grid though [11:48] Nebadon Izumi: and take a peak around [11:48] Nebadon Izumi: everything from last year is still running [11:48] Nebadon Izumi: hg to http://cc.opensimulator.org:8002 [11:48] Nebadon Izumi: feel free to explore :) [11:48] Nebadon Izumi: get an idea of what its like [11:48] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: ty [11:49] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: One of the other things we've talked about is starting load testing for 0.9 [11:50] Nebadon Izumi: well I cant really upgrade OSCC grid until after the release unforutnately [11:50] Nebadon Izumi: because WiFi would stop working [11:50] Nebadon Izumi: if i upgraded now [11:50] Nebadon Izumi: and generally diva wont fix wifi to work until after the release [11:50] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org nods [11:50] Nebadon Izumi: after my trip though we can see what we can do [11:50] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: It is something that should be done as part of the process of preparing an 0.9 release. [11:50] Nebadon Izumi: yea [11:50] Nebadon Izumi: we are certainly testing it right now [11:50] Nebadon Izumi: OSgrid is always on bleeeding edge [11:50] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: It may hold up the 0.9 release a bit. [11:51] Nebadon Izumi: OSG9B was a great test [11:51] Nebadon Izumi: we can certainly do lots of testing here [11:51] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: True but you don't often have as many people in one region at a given time here. [11:51] Nebadon Izumi: at OSG9B we did [11:51] Nebadon Izumi: was in the 50-60 range [11:51] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: oh, ok [11:51] Nebadon Izumi: but i am sure we can arrange something [11:51] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: I always wind up missing those events [11:51] Nebadon Izumi: to put it through the paces [11:52] Nebadon Izumi: just need a little advanced notice [11:52] Nebadon Izumi: and possibly a weekend [11:52] Nebadon Izumi: we could pretty easily muster up 50-60 people [11:52] Nebadon Izumi: probably more [11:52] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org nods [11:53] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: I have one OS question I have before we break up for the day. [11:54] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org: Has anyone else noticed that newly created avatars don't always wind up landing at one of the preset landing points in a grid? [11:54] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002 flüstert: is that allowed??!!! [11:54] Andrew.Hellershanks @hg.osgrid.org grins [11:55] Nebadon Izumi: Var region? [11:55] Andrew Hellershanks: No regular sized regions. [11:55] Andrew Hellershanks: The landing point is set. [11:55] Nebadon Izumi: you mean the robust defined places? [11:55] Andrew Hellershanks: The regions have been marked as default regions. [11:55] Andrew Hellershanks: Nebadon, yes. [11:56] Nebadon Izumi: if the web interface is defining a location [11:56] Nebadon Izumi: well it could potentially be how the accounts are being created [11:56] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: << it was great to meet everyone today! I look forward to helping this development initiative any way I can! > [11:56] Andrew Hellershanks: nebadon, that is my thought too. I'm trying to get more details and find out if all avatars have the problem or just some. [11:56] Nebadon Izumi: if last location or home has nothing set though it should default to those places [11:57] Andrew Hellershanks: exactly. I've suggested making sure that the avatars get their last and/or home location set when they are created. [11:57] Nebadon Izumi: also It works better if they are being defined in Robust.ini [11:57] Nebadon Izumi: and not just being set on the console itself [11:57] Nebadon Izumi: Also once you do set it in Robust.ini and restart robust [11:57] Nebadon Izumi: you must also restart those regions [11:57] Nebadon Izumi: for it to take effect [11:57] Andrew Hellershanks: The default landing regions are definied in the ini files. [11:57] Nebadon Izumi: it wont take effect until everything gets restarted [11:57] Andrew Hellershanks nods [11:58] Nebadon Izumi: other than that I cant think of anything [11:58] Nebadon Izumi: even god accounts should respect those [11:58] Andrew Hellershanks: oh, that reminds me that I may need to update Robust after the instances were updated a while ago. [11:58] Nebadon Izumi: i tend to land here at WP when my regions are down [11:58] Nebadon Izumi: and i ask to log into home [11:59] Nebadon Izumi: generally its whatever one is closest to the region you cant get to [11:59] Nebadon Izumi: etc.. [11:59] Nebadon Izumi: but for new users I am not sure how that works [11:59] Andrew Hellershanks: I usually hit one of the default landing points if I try going to a place that is offline. [11:59] Nebadon Izumi: I think for us on OSgrid our web interface is defining the landing region [11:59] James.atLLOUD @hg.osgrid.org: I'd set my home to this meeting area, but get the message my home is not available and rez in the center. [11:59] Nebadon Izumi: i cant remember 100% now though [11:59] Andrew Hellershanks: I didn't do the system that creates the new avatars. I may have to spend time looking at what it is doing. [12:00] Nebadon Izumi: yea [12:00] Nebadon Izumi: my guess is that is where it may be the problem [12:00] Andrew Hellershanks: The website is a mess so I try and stay away from looking at it. [12:00] Nebadon Izumi: haha [12:00] Andrew Hellershanks: :) [12:01] Nebadon Izumi: ok well if no one else has any questions I do need to get back to work, also prepping for my trip on thursday [12:01] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: Great to meet you all [12:01] James.atLLOUD @hg.osgrid.org: Have a great trip Nebadon. [12:01] Nebadon Izumi: again just a reminder I wont be here next week but will be back in 2 weeks [12:02] Nebadon Izumi: thanks :) [12:02] Simulator Version v0.5 ruft: OpenSim 0.9.0.0 Dev       b9380c0: 2016-09-10 12:43:48 +0100 (Unix/Mono) [12:02] Andrew Hellershanks: I'll probably forget but someone else may remind me. [12:02] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: Anything you guys might like for me to convey to Selby [12:02] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: ? [12:03] Nebadon Izumi: Just remind him of OSCC coming up in december [12:03] Andrew Hellershanks: I should be moving along soon as well. I have a couple of errands to do this afternoon. [12:03] Nebadon Izumi: he probably already knows though [12:03] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: I will [12:03] James atLLOUD: II appreciate his enthusiasm [12:04] Nebadon Izumi: ok thanks for coming everyone talk soon [12:04] Andrew Hellershanks: Does any one have any last minute items for this meeting? [12:04] Andrew Hellershanks: ok, tc nebadon. See you when you get back from your trip. [12:04] George Equus: Thanks for an interesting informative meed. Enjoy your trip Neb [12:04] Nebadon Izumi: i should clean up my mess before i go :) [12:04] James atLLOUD: Glad we got some OSCC talk [12:04] Nebadon Izumi: there is enough prims here haha [12:04] Andrew Hellershanks: nebadon must be racking up those frequent flyer miles. [12:05] Nebadon Izumi: haha the company orders my airline tickets for me [12:05] Andrew Hellershanks: At least you didn't drop the 100k+ object, nebadon [12:05] Nebadon Izumi: most of them fly way more than I do :) [12:05] Nebadon Izumi: haha ya [12:05] Nebadon Izumi: that would have ended bad [12:06] Nebadon Izumi: ok talk soon all thanks again [12:06] Don.Smith @grid.kitely.com:8002: TY All [12:06] Andrew Hellershanks: If there is nothing more for this week we might as well call this meeting concluded. [12:06] Andrew Hellershanks: Thank you all for coming. See you next week. [12:06] Nebs Metal Bar Stool v1.6 (w/sit & launch): Goodbye..