Chat log from the meeting on 2021-02-23

 [11:01] Ubit Umarov: wc selby.Evans [11:01] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Hi Sleby [11:01] Kayaker Magic: Hello Selby! [11:02] Ubit Umarov: hi andrew [11:02] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Hi Andrew [11:02] Kayaker Magic: Ada got her second Covid shot the other day and says it really knocked her out. She's resting up. [11:03] Ubit Umarov: oh? [11:03] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: sorry to hear that [11:03] Andrew Hellershanks: Hello, everyone. [11:03] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: the father of a friend of mine died 2 days after getting the 2nd shot [11:03] Ubit Umarov: their pub on the shots is that they are nice and easy [11:04] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: I had no reaction but a sore arm [11:04] Kayaker Magic: Som people get flu like symptoms on the second shot. It is good news: It means your immune system is reacting to the virus protein! [11:05] Ubit Umarov: yeah that is what most ppl has [11:05] Ubit Umarov: i mean just sore arm [11:05] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: had both shots [11:06] Andrew Hellershanks: I would want to know vaccine I'm getting before getting a shot. [11:06] Ubit Umarov: well keep the safe rules.. distance, mask etc [11:06] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: agreed Andrew [11:06] Ubit Umarov: their best claims is 95% protection [11:06] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: I got pfizer [11:06] Ubit Umarov: real.. 50% ? dunno [11:07] Ubit Umarov: yeah that is 95% no? [11:07] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: Pfizer is 95% [11:07] Andrew Hellershanks: IIRC, there are vaccines that only take one shot but then there are some vaccines that are less than 95% effective. [11:07] Ubit Umarov: the oxford one is a mess [11:08] Ubit Umarov: no one really knows it seems [11:08] Ubit Umarov: masny eu countries are not using it on ppl > 65 yrs old [11:08] Ubit Umarov: many.. [11:08] Ubit Umarov: their testing was just. bad gezz [11:09] Ubit Umarov: think only one is a single shot [11:09] Ubit Umarov: not sure if approved anywhere [11:09] Ubit Umarov: jonhson & j ?? [11:09] Ubit Umarov: or moderna ? [11:10] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Moderna is the DNA modifying one, so def not taking that [11:10] Ubit Umarov: yeah.. ur av coudl grow hair.. scary [11:10] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: US has only approved Pfizer and Moderna -- both have high protection [11:11] Kayaker Magic: Pfizer is also messenger RNA just like Moderna [11:11] Ubit Umarov: Johnson & Johnson Announces Single-Shot Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine [11:11] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: Right, Kayaker [11:12] Ubit Umarov: yeah [11:12] Kayaker Magic: And it doesnt modify DNA, just uses your ribozomes the way a virus does to produce a protien that your immune system learns to attack. [11:12] Andrew Hellershanks: I thought Pfizer was single shot but I'm not listening to the radio to be up on the latest vaccine news. [11:12] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Pfizer keeps dialing back their delivery dates here so [11:12] Andrew Hellershanks: hello, jamie [11:12] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Hi Jamie [11:12] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: pls have a seat [11:12] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: Pfizer is 2 shot [11:12] Ubit Umarov: Vaccine Candidate 72% Effective in the US and 66% Effective Overall at Preventing Moderate to Severe COVID-19, 28 Days after Vaccination [11:13] Ubit Umarov: think only this j&j is single [11:13] Ubit Umarov: well there are a ton now [11:13] Ubit Umarov: russia has 2 or 3 [11:13] Ubit Umarov: china a few [11:13] Ubit Umarov: india.. ?? etc [11:13] Jamie.Jordan @grid.kitely.com:8002: hi everybody [11:13] Ubit Umarov: hi [11:14] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: India has abought a large quantity of the Russian vaccine and will produce it in India [11:14] Ubit Umarov: also the oxford one [11:14] Andrew Hellershanks: Time to get back to why we are here. Who is going to start us off today with something related to OpenSimulator? [11:14] Ubit Umarov: Ohh that is why we are here [11:15] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: chipping at a new viewer release [11:15] Ubit Umarov: eep one? [11:15] Ubit Umarov runs and hides [11:15] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: no [11:15] Ubit Umarov: bahh seems ll did broke our rainbow [11:16] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: yeah, it still looks like shit generally in SL, so no hurry [11:16] Ubit Umarov: they made the asset wrong.. colours in the wrong order for the main rainbow [11:16] Kayaker Magic: I have been making non-avatar animesh lately, outside is a hex post that bows in diffreent directions by switching animations when you touch it. [11:16] Ubit Umarov: i made a fixed asset,, ai austin retouched it [11:16] Ubit Umarov: now seem ll changed THE CODE to reverse the order [11:16] Jamie.Jordan @grid.kitely.com:8002: SG is working hard up there, don't forget to tip her [11:16] Ubit Umarov: grrrr [11:17] Jamie.Jordan @grid.kitely.com:8002: sorry [11:17] Ubit Umarov: sg? [11:17] Kayaker Magic: I have a couple of strange things happening with animesh, may be submitting mantusi when I figure out whats going on. [11:17] Jamie.Jordan @grid.kitely.com:8002: sticky keys [11:17] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: I goty myself Bento Buddy the other day [11:18] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: but he creates about 1-2 instructional videos every day now, so there are well over 100 to to through [11:18] Ubit Umarov: :) [11:18] Ubit Umarov: not sure why a friend of the pope does that, but ok [11:18] Andrew Hellershanks: Gavin, It will take a while to get through all of those. What are your initial impressions of the program? [11:19] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: it is a big bite to chew [11:19] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: plus Blender does not exactly add to the experience :-) [11:19] Kayaker Magic: Ada Radius and I are researching how to make animesh, mesh bodies and clothing without paying for plugins like Bento Buddy or Avastar. [11:20] Kayaker Magic: Ada says Avastr for Blender 2.8 and above is full of bugs. [11:20] Andrew Hellershanks: I installed the latest vesion of MakeHuman on my machine but I haven't had time to do much with it. [11:20] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: I magically sell enough items every month in SL that both pays for my land, premium and now also bento Buddy [11:20] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: I have not added any merchandice since 2012 [11:22] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: since we talk about SL, the latest TPV video was like watching paint dry [11:22] Andrew Hellershanks: Gavin, nice. What types of items do you sell? [11:22] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: mesh items [11:23] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: some full perm [11:23] Andrew Hellershanks: ok [11:23] Ubit Umarov: hmm the Oz goodbye one? [11:23] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: it is basically the same items I have on Kitely Marketplace [11:23] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: yep Ubit [11:24] Ubit Umarov: yeah had several silent moments [11:24] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: :-) [11:24] Ubit Umarov: but Oz leaving SL was its main thing [11:27] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: symptomatically they did not give him anything, but he had to give them all a bear :-)) [11:27] Ubit Umarov: well on last week not much code changes [11:27] Andrew Hellershanks: Ubit, not much? I didn't see any. :) [11:28] Andrew Hellershanks: You were just giving people some time to test out the latest changes. [11:28] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: WIP [11:28] Ubit Umarov: well none is part of not much :p [11:29] Ubit Umarov: well lbsa is a bit behind [11:29] Ubit Umarov: not sure who is testing it [11:29] Kayaker Magic: All sets contain the empty set? [11:30] Ubit Umarov: don't get 2 philosophic now :p [11:30] Ubit Umarov: :) [11:30] Andrew Hellershanks: hehe [11:32] Andrew Hellershanks: Any more questions/comments for today? [11:33] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: If nothing else Bento Buddy prompted me tp brush up the viewer code for import/export link sets [11:33] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: it had not been touched for 7 years [11:33] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: so that will be in the next version [11:33] Andrew Hellershanks: If it ain't broke ... ? [11:34] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: it was lacking [11:34] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: no materials support, no support for version 2 archives [11:34] Andrew Hellershanks: ok. [11:35] Andrew Hellershanks: Is that going to be a lot of work? [11:35] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: it is fixed [11:35] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: just not released [11:36] Andrew Hellershanks nods [11:36] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: except the changes are in the repository [11:38] Andrew Hellershanks: Where can people find the repository in case they want to build the code and not wait for an official release? [11:39] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: LL had a brillinat commit message to their latest viewer release: Impostor management is an unmaintainable and incomprehensible mess [11:39] Andrew Hellershanks: :) [11:39] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: not sure I can untangle all that yet, but [11:45] Kayaker Magic: [11:45] Kayaker Magic: [11:45] Andrew Hellershanks: Those too. :) [11:46] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: I am listening to the weather outside [11:46] Andrew Hellershanks: It seems we have all had a quiet week so there isn't much to talk about today. [11:46] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: Bye everyone [11:47] Andrew Hellershanks: ok. Bye Selby. [11:47] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Bye Selby [11:47] Andrew Hellershanks: On that note, we might as well pack it in early today. [11:47] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: sounds like a plan! [11:48] Andrew Hellershanks waits for Kayaker to finish typing [11:48] Ubit Umarov: kay is typing? [11:48] Andrew Hellershanks: I'm seeing the moving ... above his head. [11:49] Andrew Hellershanks: Hello, tx.Oh [11:49] Kayaker Magic: I'm not typing [11:49] tx.Oh @dynapad.icf.de:9000: hi [11:49] Kayaker Magic: My avatar animaton is stuck [11:49] Andrew Hellershanks: ok. My viewer is stuck showing that you are. [11:49] Andrew Hellershanks: If that is it, I will say my usual final words. [11:49] Andrew Hellershanks: Thank you all for coming. See you again next week. [11:49] Ubit Umarov: :) [11:49] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Have a great week all [11:49] Andrew Hellershanks: ok, now it has stopped showing you typing, Kayaker. [11:49] Ubit Umarov: u2 [11:50] Kayaker Magic: Bye all!