Chat log from the meeting on 2010-07-06

[10:01] Richardus Raymaker: is there a meeting today ? and who's doing it ? [10:01] Nebadon Izumi: hey guys [10:01] Jacek Antonelli: Hi Neb [10:02] Richardus Raymaker: hi nebadon, almost wanted to put you on the lost in action list :) [10:02]  Nebadon Izumi: heh ya move has me pretty busy [10:02]  Jacek Antonelli: Heh, it's only 2 minutes after the hour [10:02]  Richardus Raymaker: so we can rescue you from the boxes [10:02]  Richardus Raymaker: yes [10:02]  Richardus Raymaker: i think you cant see any cube more [10:04]  Nebadon Izumi: im not sure if anyone is showing up today or not [10:04]  Nebadon Izumi: i havent had much time for IRC or in world, couple more days of moving / unpacking / cleaning for me still [10:05]  Nebadon Izumi: see who shows up though [10:05]  Nebadon Izumi: was there a awg meeting today? [10:05]  Dolma Dollinger: Hi just saying hello *smile* [10:05]  Nebadon Izumi: hello Dolma [10:05]  Richardus Raymaker: you still do it fast, it would take me much longer [10:05]  Richardus Raymaker: hello dolma [10:06]  Dolma Dollinger: I am afraid the dev meeting is still way over my head [10:06] WhiteStar Magic is Online [10:07] Nebadon Izumi: heh well its good if you have things you need to ask devs about etc.. [10:07] Nebadon Izumi: about bugs or whatever [10:07] Region Showcase Kiosk: Received 31 regions from database. [10:08] Dolma Dollinger: Well apart from the new Hypergrid 1.5 it looks perfect [10:08] Nebadon Izumi: though im not sure if any devs are coming today [10:08] Nebadon Izumi: problems with HG 1.5? [10:08] Dolma Dollinger: Well I might need a rolback [10:09] Dolma Dollinger: Can detete stuff in "My sSuitcase" [10:09] Dolma Dollinger: Cant delete [10:09] Nebadon Izumi: ah ya you cant use SL2 apparantly [10:09] Nebadon Izumi: i heard that breaks your inventory [10:09] Dolma Dollinger: I use Imprudence [10:09] Nebadon Izumi: so is My Suitcase part of HG? [10:09]  Dolma Dollinger: Yes [10:10] Nebadon Izumi: i cant say i know anything about HG [10:10]  Nebadon Izumi: not even HG1 [10:10] Nebadon Izumi: never used it [10:10]  Dolma Dollinger: I am sure they will solve it [10:10]  Nebadon Izumi: ya [10:10]  Nebadon Izumi: is there a mantis? [10:10] Dolma Dollinger: Hmm is it a real problem? [10:10] Nebadon Izumi: sounds like it [10:10]  Nebadon Izumi whispers: hehe i dont know i have quite literally never used HG [10:11]  Nebadon Izumi: not only have I not set it up, ive not even HG teleported [10:11] Richardus Raymaker: still fighting with voice. figured now out linux viewrs are a bit picky with voice [10:11] Dolma Dollinger: I understood the software is being reviewed noe [10:11] Nebadon Izumi: cool well as long as the devs know about the problem [10:11] Nebadon Izumi: if there is no mantis report they might not know [10:11] Dolma Dollinger: Ok I wait some days. Can Mantis it after all [10:12] Nebadon Izumi: k ya it will be a while anyway before a lot of people are using 0.7 and HG 1.5 anyway [10:12] Nebadon Izumi: right now its still hardcore testers only [10:12] Nebadon Izumi: hehe [10:12] Dolma Dollinger: Well 0.7 solves a lot of bugs and so [10:13]  Nebadon Izumi: hopefully next week i'll be back on track for more testing [10:13] Nebadon Izumi: then we can start focusing on moving to 0.7 here [10:13] Richardus Raymaker: a while. outside osgrid yes [10:13] Nebadon Izumi: though that wont happen until after OSG3B [10:13] Nebadon Izumi: just soo much going on [10:13]  Nebadon Izumi: we dont want to risk changing anything before the parties [10:14] Dolma Dollinger: Well better wait for the stable version [10:14] Nebadon Izumi: ya, 0.7 still isnt officially released yet [10:14] Richardus Raymaker: descrive "stable" :P [10:14] Nebadon Izumi: there are other issues too [10:14] Dolma Dollinger: I suppose it will be a huge logistic operation for OSGrid [10:14] Nebadon Izumi: mysql connector needs to be reverted [10:14] Justin Clark-Casey is Online [10:14] Nebadon Izumi: otherwsie there will be wide scale issues [10:14] Dolma Dollinger: Done in 0.7RC2 [10:15] Nebadon Izumi: hey Justin [10:15] Dolma Dollinger: They already did that [10:15] Nebadon Izumi: ah thats good, i know RC2 was going to be done [10:15] Justin Clark-Casey: hi nebadon, folks [10:15] Dolma Dollinger: Hello Justin [10:15] Nebadon Izumi: but the master tree is not [10:15] Richardus Raymaker: hi justin [10:15] Nebadon Izumi: they were talkling about only doing it in RC2 [10:15] Nebadon Izumi: but i think thier will be a full revert [10:16] Nebadon Izumi: i dont think there is an easy fix to that problem [10:16] Nebadon Izumi: the problem is in the MySQL connector itself [10:16] Nebadon Izumi: not something we manage or control [10:16] Nebadon Izumi: but really i hvaent been paying enough attention last few weeks to really know what the plan is right now [10:17] Dolma Dollinger: Justin migh know? [10:17] Justin Clark-Casey: what's that? [10:17] Nebadon Izumi: the new mysql connector [10:17] Nebadon Izumi: whats the status [10:17] Nebadon Izumi: has it been reverted yet? [10:17] Justin Clark-Casey: I might not be here for long - in fact, I'm going to have to drop off in 5 mins [10:17] Justin Clark-Casey: not in master, but has been in rc2 [10:18] Nebadon Izumi: k [10:18]  Nebadon Izumi: ya thats what i thought [10:18] Justin Clark-Casey: there's a permanent problem with the new one? [10:18] Nebadon Izumi: not sure, the problem is not in our code [10:18] Richardus Raymaker: Not time to try 0.7 [10:18] Nebadon Izumi: its in the new connector itself [10:18] Nebadon Izumi: so unless we are planning on managing that ourselves with our own fix [10:19] Nebadon Izumi: im not sure there is any other solution but to wait for MySQL team to fix it [10:19]  Nebadon Izumi: which could take months [10:19] Richardus Raymaker: i heared somewhere its a ; that need to be removed [10:19] Nebadon Izumi: since Oracle aquired MySQL [10:19] Richardus Raymaker: aha, then it can take a while before its fixt [10:19] Nebadon Izumi: patches are not being address [10:19] Justin Clark-Casey: ho hum [10:19] Nebadon Izumi: even prior to that Sun was not applying patches to mysql [10:19] Nebadon Izumi: there are patches that are years old [10:19] Nebadon Izumi: they havent touched [10:19] Justin Clark-Casey: ok, unfortunately I need to pop off - got a friend round [10:20] Nebadon Izumi: kk no Prob Justin [10:20] Nebadon Izumi: thanks for swinging by [10:20]  Justin Clark-Casey: have a good week, everyone [10:20] Richardus Raymaker: someone wants to sue oracle because some mysql stuff the keept not there promise [10:20] Dolma Dollinger: Nice to meet you Justin [10:20] Richardus Raymaker: bye JCC [10:20] Justin Clark-Casey waves [10:20] Richardus Raymaker: And the http based inventory is on ice to ? [10:20] Dolma Dollinger: Hmm Winzenius did [10:20] Nebadon Izumi: this weeks meeting is kind of a loss [10:21] Nebadon Izumi: not sure Richardus [10:21] Nebadon Izumi: Inventory and Assets do not change in 0.7 [10:21] Nebadon Izumi: its the same as 0.6.9 [10:21] Nebadon Izumi: i think assets has 1 extra feild [10:21] Nebadon Izumi: but thats about it [10:21]  Nebadon Izumi: Xinvnentory has a lot of issues [10:22] Richardus Raymaker: what i know is we jkepe old system yes [10:22] Nebadon Izumi: im not sure just changing to Http would have any effect [10:22] Justin Clark-Casey is Offline [10:22] Nebadon Izumi: hard to say [10:22] Nebadon Izumi: its not slated for the 0.7 release though [10:22] Nebadon Izumi: i do know that [10:22] Nebadon Izumi: maybe post-fixes or 0.8 [10:22] Nebadon Izumi: hard to say [10:23] Nebadon Izumi: 0.8 should go alot faster than 0.7 did [10:23] Nebadon Izumi: 0.7 was a really major refactor [10:23] Richardus Raymaker: with http we dont have mysql anymore right ? [10:23] Nebadon Izumi: no [10:23]  Nebadon Izumi: mysql is not going away [10:23] Richardus Raymaker: hmm, to bad. that dont fix the mysql problem [10:24] Nebadon Izumi: probably ever [10:24] paulie Flomar is Online [10:24] Nebadon Izumi: we'll always need a database [10:24] Richardus Raymaker: im happy with mysql. only oracle is maby slow [10:24] Nebadon Izumi: you can switch to MariaDB [10:24] Nebadon Izumi: which is not controlled by Oracle [10:24] Nebadon Izumi: its the original MySQL creators [10:24] Richardus Raymaker: but also no phpmyadmin then [10:24] Nebadon Izumi: no [10:24]  Nebadon Izumi: it works [10:25] Nebadon Izumi: its a full MySQL implementation [10:25] Nebadon Izumi: the commands are the same [10:25] Nebadon Izumi: connectors are the same [10:25] Nebadon Izumi: its MySQL source [10:25] Nebadon Izumi: just more optimized with all the patches that sun / oracle is not applying [10:25] Richardus Raymaker: but for now lets use mysql. its not usefull to change it [10:25] Nebadon Izumi: its MYSQL [10:25] Nebadon Izumi: the commands are 1:1 [10:25] Nebadon Izumi: you wouldnt know your not running mysql [10:25] Nebadon Izumi: the daemon name is mysqld [10:26] Nebadon Izumi: the command line tool is mysql and mysqldump [10:26] Nebadon Izumi: it is the MySQL opensource code [10:26] Nebadon Izumi: forked [10:26] Richardus Raymaker: i see, http://phosphor-escence.blogspot.com/2010/02/installing-mariadb-on-opensuse-112.html [10:26] Nebadon Izumi: http://mariadb.org/ [10:26] Nebadon Izumi: cool [10:26] Nebadon Izumi: i have not had time to try it yet [10:26] Richardus Raymaker: i see http://phosphor-escence.blogspot.com/2010/02/installing-mariadb-on-opensuse-112.html [10:26] Jacek Antonelli: Hey Armin :) [10:27]  Nebadon Izumi: Fly-Man- did and he said its faster than oracle mysql [10:27]  Richardus Raymaker: hi armin [10:27]  Richardus Raymaker: questionlater for you [10:27]  Dolma Dollinger: Hi Armin [10:27]  Armin Weatherwax: hi :) [10:27] Dolma Dollinger: Nice to meet you [10:27] Nebadon Izumi: i do plan on testing MariaDB once i get my development servers hooked back up [10:27]  Nebadon Izumi: right now they are sitting here unplugged [10:27] Richardus Raymaker: when i have time i need to play with mariadb on test server [10:28] Nebadon Izumi: ya [10:28]  Nebadon Izumi: that would be great [10:28] Nebadon Izumi: if you could test [10:28] Nebadon Izumi: it needs more testing for sure [10:28] Nebadon Izumi: you can join #maria on freenode [10:28] Nebadon Izumi: they seem like a helpful bunch [10:29] Dahlia Trimble is Online [10:29] Richardus Raymaker: I need more time.. :O [10:29] Richardus Raymaker: hi WS [10:31]  Nebadon Izumi: heh ya i could use more time too hehe [10:32] paulie Flomar: :) [10:32]  Dahlia Trimble: hi :) [10:32] paulie Flomar is Offline [10:32] Richardus Raymaker: hi paulie, dahlia [10:32] Dolma Dollinger: Hello Dahlia and Paulie [10:33] paulie Flomar is Online [10:33] Dahlia Trimble: where's everyone at? small crowd today [10:33] Nebadon Izumi: ya not many showed up today [10:33] Dolma Dollinger: Summer Holiday Season? [10:33] Richardus Raymaker: yes. [10:33] Nebadon Izumi: could be, also post holiday [10:34] Nebadon Izumi: maybe everyone is swamped with RL work today [10:34] Nebadon Izumi: i almost didnt come myself since im mid-moving [10:34] Nebadon Izumi: but figured since i had a bit of time i would [10:34] paulie Flomar: :) [10:34]  Dahlia Trimble: ewwww I hate moving [10:34]  Nebadon Izumi: ya [10:34]  Nebadon Izumi: i wish i was done honestly [10:35]  paulie Flomar: I had a free moment. Thought Id drop by. [10:35]  Nebadon Izumi: hey Paulie [10:35]  Richardus Raymaker: somewhere i wish it where time to move here. but not found anything new. need a bigger desk :P [10:35]  Dahlia Trimble: hiya Paulie :) [10:35] paulie Flomar: wtfbbq [10:35] paulie Flomar: i keep gettin thrown [10:35] paulie Flomar: .. [10:35] paulie Flomar: laggariffic [10:35] Nebadon Izumi: thrown? [10:36] Richardus Raymaker: but the moveing self and unpacking. eeuww. [10:36] Richardus Raymaker: can be some hell [10:36] paulie Flomar: ISnt OpenSim supposed to br perfected by now? DAng. [10:36] Nebadon Izumi: hehe [10:36] Dahlia Trimble: it's those lame developers [10:36] paulie Flomar: Howdeh, Dahl. :) [10:36] Nebadon Izumi: i just leveled your terrain out paulie [10:36]  Nebadon Izumi: there was a gigantic spike on Cameo Beach [10:37]  Nebadon Izumi: it was like 200m high spike [10:37]  paulie Flomar: Cameo is on some crappeh hardware right now. I apologize if its causin gissues fo rneighbors. [10:37]  Nebadon Izumi: no no problem at all [10:37]  Nebadon Izumi: looked like someone was experimenting with terrain editing [10:37]  Nebadon Izumi: i figured you didnt want it that way [10:37]  paulie Flomar: oh. lol. ok. thx. :) [10:38] paulie Flomar: I cant seem to lock Cameo down. My choices never stay checked in the perm dialog. [10:38] Nebadon Izumi: wierd [10:38] paulie Flomar whispers: I imagine so. ^ [10:39] Nebadon Izumi: i bet you have multiple parcels in the land table [10:39] Nebadon Izumi: lbsa plaza and a couple others were like that too [10:39] Richardus Raymaker: mysql pauli ? [10:39] Nebadon Izumi: i had to do some cleaning in the database to make it right again [10:40] Jacek Antonelli: (Gotta run, take care all) [10:40] Dahlia Trimble: bye :) [10:40]  Richardus Raymaker: bye jacek [10:40]  Nebadon Izumi: see you Jacek [10:40]  Armin Weatherwax: take care Jacek [10:42]  Lag hang in there!  [10:42]  Dahlia Trimble: OMG a mouse! [10:42]  Nebadon Izumi: anyone else have anything thats not working right in their sims? [10:42]  Andrew Hellershanks: ack... i'm stuck [10:43]  Nebadon Izumi: ya it lagged out [10:43]  paulie Flomar: sorry. was afk for a bit. Cameo does run Mysql, yeah. Maybe some cleaning is in order. Or another look at the ini setup. [10:43]  Dahlia Trimble: big lag spurt [10:43]  Andrew Hellershanks: I tend to forget about the meetings. The IRC topic didn't say what time. [10:43]  WhiteStar Magic: concurrent logins get ya everytime [10:43]  Nebadon Izumi: its the same time every week [10:44]  Nebadon Izumi: 11am PST Tuesday [10:44]  Richardus Raymaker: yesterday it sems prims disapeard while edit. at least i not found them back for now [10:44] Andrew Hellershanks: 11am? oh, ok. I should write that down somewhere. [10:44] Nebadon Izumi: ya we'll try to get back on track next week normally i announce in IRC a bit ahead of time [10:44] Nebadon Izumi: this week i didnt [10:44] paulie Flomar: I dont do enough on Cameo to notice many issues, atm. HOpefully in future I will have more going on there. [10:44] Nebadon Izumi: i wasnt even sure i was going to make it here myself [10:45] paulie Flomar: Border crossings between CAmeo and Wright do seem problematic,tho. [10:45] paulie Flomar: fwiw [10:45] WhiteStar Magic: what version is Cameo [10:46] Dahlia Trimble: I noticed my clothes never rezzed when I logged into WP, had to tp to my home region first [10:47] paulie Flomar: Cameo is latest official download from osgrid.org. [10:47] Andrew Hellershanks: Nebadon, its ok. I'm not always on the IRC channel at that time [10:47] paulie Flomar: I try an dkeep Cameo updated to official releases. [10:47] Andrew Hellershanks: Cameo? [10:47] paulie Flomar: CAmeo beach. Mhy region, west of here. [10:48] Richardus Raymaker: but, replaced router today to, i think the old one makes problems to [10:48]  Andrew Hellershanks: ok. THought you were talking some softaware [10:48] paulie Flomar: Andrew: no worries. :) [10:48] Andrew Hellershanks: That's what I get for coming in late. [10:48]  Andrew Hellershanks: hehe [10:48]  WhiteStar Magic: this plaza is using latest 6.9-post-fix [10:48]  paulie Flomar: We;re glad that anyone shows up at all for dev meetings, actually. :) [10:49] Richardus Raymaker: does someone know why vpoice under linux dont talk with freeswitch good, and under windows viewer it works fine (both hippo) [10:49] paulie Flomar: Whitestar, yeah, Cameo is on latest 6.9 post. [10:49] WhiteStar Magic: couple snuck in and were gnarly there.... [10:49] Andrew Hellershanks: Richardus I'm still fighting with getting voice chat working with OpenSim 0.6.9 [10:49] paulie Flomar: RR: Ive never been able to get Freeswitch working in Linux. But I may just be simp,le. [10:50] Nebadon Izumi: sorry reading back got a call [10:50] Richardus Raymaker: i have it working in standalone. only my linux clients have problems to make voice connection (no button enabled) windows works fine [10:50] Nebadon Izumi: water company [10:50] Nebadon Izumi: hehe [10:50] Richardus Raymaker: freeswitch runs as server under linux [10:50] Nebadon Izumi: ya i will try to do a new release tonight [10:50] Andrew Hellershanks: I was told that FS needs access to a db so that was possibly one problem I was having but I have another issue to deal with [10:50] Nebadon Izumi: now i have most of the plazas updated [10:50] paulie Flomar: Like the title, Dahlia. heh. [10:50] Nebadon Izumi: i feel comfortable doing a new release [10:51] Dahlia Trimble: lol [10:51] Nebadon Izumi: after i go to the DMV to change my drivers license, i'll try to get a new release out later tonight [10:51] Andrew Hellershanks: Nebadon, new release of ...? [10:51] Nebadon Izumi: OpenSIM for OSGrid [10:51] Nebadon Izumi: post-fixes [10:51] Nebadon Izumi: our release is a bit behind the current [10:51] paulie Flomar: Andrew, new official releases show up at osgrid.org. [10:51] Andrew Hellershanks: ok. What revision will you be going to? [10:52] Andrew Hellershanks: paulie, I get my OS from git [10:52] Nebadon Izumi: whatever the master version of post-fixes is [10:52]  Andrew Hellershanks: k [10:52]  Nebadon Izumi: i think this region is running it [10:52]  Simulator Version v0.5 shouts: OpenSim 0.6.9 (Post_Fixes) d743a22: 2010-06-30 21:27:55 +0100 (Unix/Mono) [10:52] Nebadon Izumi: ya [10:52]  paulie Flomar: Andrew: yeah, but latest trunk wont run well on osgrid. Osgrid regions need to stay behind on official. [10:52] paulie Flomar: afaik [10:52] Nebadon Izumi: ya [10:52]  Nebadon Izumi: use 0.6.9-post-fixes branch [10:52] Nebadon Izumi: for OSgrid [10:52] Nebadon Izumi: 0.7 wont start here [10:53] Andrew Hellershanks: I'm on 12924 but should update. There was an issue re: some message can wind up going to the log multiple times [10:53] paulie Flomar: we wait in hope. :) [10:53] Dolma Dollinger: The last 0.6.9 post-fixes I ran was very good [10:53]  Nebadon Izumi: ya it wont be until after OSG3B probably sometime next month [10:53]  Nebadon Izumi: but we will probably be doing some limited testing before then [10:53]  Nebadon Izumi: right now i just cant say for sure how it will go down [10:53]  Nebadon Izumi: but its soon [10:54]  Nebadon Izumi: Dave is working on a Robust connector for SimianGrid Frontend [10:54]  Nebadon Izumi: that will replace the website [10:54]  UUID Speaker: Donzil Zenovka: fd1142c5-7c71-404a-03d4-1639a090c872 [10:54]  paulie Flomar: btw, IM not sitting because my viewer seems to send my cam position to infinity when I sit. [10:54]  Dahlia Trimble: robust connector for simiangrid? arent they exclusive? [10:54]  Andrew Hellershanks: Whitestar, you mentioned in a bug report that 80% of regions in a grid weren't updating the datasnapshot? [10:54] Nebadon Izumi: right now they are not compatible [10:55] Nebadon Izumi: SimianGrid frontend is the web interface [10:55] Dahlia Trimble: ah ok [10:55]  Nebadon Izumi: SimianGrid iteself is a complete Robust Replacement [10:55] Simulator Version v0.5 shouts: OpenSim 0.6.9 (Post_Fixes) d743a22: 2010-06-30 21:27:55 +0100 (Unix/Mono) [10:55] Nebadon Izumi: our goal is to one day move over to SimianGrid maybe [10:55] paulie Flomar: IT is? [10:55] Nebadon Izumi: if we outgrow Robust [10:55] paulie Flomar: did not know that [10:55] Nebadon Izumi: Robust has the issue of C# http services [10:55] Nebadon Izumi: there may be a time when we outgrow its capabilities [10:56] paulie Flomar: ...interresting... [10:56] Nebadon Izumi: were just not sure [10:56] Dahlia Trimble: does simiangrid support hypergrid? [10:56] Nebadon Izumi: so were helping to develop Simiangrid for just that case [10:56] Nebadon Izumi: not yet Dahlia [10:56] Nebadon Izumi: but its far from complete [10:56] Nebadon Izumi: it will eventually [10:56] Nebadon Izumi: it will likely only support HG1.5 and Vwrap [10:56] Penny Lane: What parts are currently operational? [10:56] WhiteStar Magic: @ Andrew, sorry, I am also troubleshooting. Yes DataSnopShot is not working and has not for some time.... [10:57] Nebadon Izumi: most of the basic grid functions work [10:57] Nebadon Izumi: in some areas its more complete than RObust [10:57] Nebadon Izumi: like built in groups [10:57] Nebadon Izumi: built in profiles [10:57] Andrew Hellershanks: WS, odd. My testing so far with it shows its working (in my grid) [10:57] WhiteStar Magic: ossearch the parser is not initiating anything and MANY MANY regions won;t even generate when they should [10:57] Nebadon Izumi: other areas like Inventory its not as full featured yet [10:57] Richardus Raymaker: how is the assets storage crow the last time ? [10:57] Dahlia Trimble: I should update, I have an old simiangrid set up now [10:57] Andrew Hellershanks: WS, is the database indicating that the time of last update is changing? [10:57] WhiteStar Magic: this applies to 3RG and apparently here too as Neb & I spent a little time trying to figure it out [10:58] Nebadon Izumi: ya the Robust version of ossearch is busted up good [10:58] Nebadon Izumi: its not been worked on in months close to a year maybe more [10:58] paulie Flomar: "busted up good." :) heh [10:58] WhiteStar Magic: the ossearch DB for regions stays static [10:58]  WhiteStar Magic: not static for users etc [10:58]  Andrew Hellershanks: WS, other things to check is that you can pull up the data from a region using a web browser. [10:58]  Nebadon Izumi: ossearch is more 0.6.7/0.6.8 [10:59]  Nebadon Izumi: it was never updated for 0.6.9 yet [10:59]  Richardus Raymaker: it seem you cant find lbsa anymore by typeing "lbsa" in map search, [10:59]  Nebadon Izumi: someone else said that [10:59]  Nebadon Izumi: but i dont have that problem [10:59]  Nebadon Izumi: which is wierd some people do some people dont [10:59]  Nebadon Izumi: i dunno whats up with that [10:59]  Dahlia Trimble: just tried it, failed for me too [10:59]  Richardus Raymaker: imprudence bug armin ? [10:59]  WhiteStar Magic: failed for me too [10:59]  Richardus Raymaker: what do you use whitestar ? [10:59]  Nebadon Izumi: wierd it works for me [11:00]  Nebadon Izumi: try searching for something that works [11:00] Nebadon Izumi: then do it [11:00]  Nebadon Izumi: try searching for Wright Plaza [11:00] Dahlia Trimble: Im using impridence [11:00] Nebadon Izumi: then do Lbsa [11:00] Nebadon Izumi: type full Wright Plaza [11:00] Nebadon Izumi: once it returns then put just lbsa [11:00] Nebadon Izumi: see if that works [11:00] Armin Weatherwax: hm, not that I know of, Richardus [11:00] Nebadon Izumi: i was searching earlier on map [11:00] Andrew Hellershanks: you two are dealing with bigger grids than me [11:00]  Richardus Raymaker: no "lbsa" no result [11:00] Nebadon Izumi: so bizzare [11:00] Nebadon Izumi: its working for me [11:00]  Nebadon Izumi: lol [11:00] WhiteStar Magic: weird, I type in "first" and all my regions appear [11:00] Nebadon Izumi: i type just Lbsa and it zooms me to Lbsa Plaza [11:00] WhiteStar Magic: type in "lbsa" and nada [11:00] Nebadon Izumi: and has Lbsa Plaza in the list [11:01] Nebadon Izumi: im using Hippo 0.6.3 [11:01] Nebadon Izumi: maybe imprudence is pickier? [11:01] Dahlia Trimble: gotta run, bye all :) [11:01]  Nebadon Izumi: kk Dahlia, thanks for coming [11:01]  WhiteStar Magic: shoudl take > 3 chars and search on that string [11:01]  Master Dubrovna: Hippo 0.6.3 here and no lbsa on search [11:01]  Nebadon Izumi: is there an AWG meeting again soon? [11:01]  Nebadon Izumi: or was there one today even? [11:01]  Andrew Hellershanks: lbsa (all lowercase) comes up with nothing [11:01]  Nebadon Izumi: odd [11:02]  Nebadon Izumi: i cant imagine why it works for me [11:02]  Andrew Hellershanks: Hippo 0.6.3 for Linux [11:02]  Armin Weatherwax: searching for wright i get wright plaza, lbsa nothing [11:02]  Nebadon Izumi: but thats typical [11:02]  Dahlia Trimble is Offline [11:02]  Richardus Raymaker: with hippo i have the same problem nebadon. no result [11:02]  Nebadon Izumi: its always gonna work for the guy who has to fix it [11:02]  Nebadon Izumi: and no one else [11:02] Master Dubrovna: lol [11:02] WhiteStar Magic: LOL [11:02] Nebadon Izumi: lol [11:02] Andrew Hellershanks: hehe [11:02] Richardus Raymaker: so its not imprudence [11:03] WhiteStar Magic: Dr Dr this hurts, but I don;t feel it right now... Then 10 Mins after leaving Dr Office, hurts 10x more [11:03] Master Dubrovna: Oh if I type lbsa plaza....then it shows [11:03] Dolma Dollinger: Strange. After I found it once wirth the Full word I can now find it with the first word [11:03] Andrew Hellershanks: I've got a patch I'll be submitting shortly to fix region type [11:03] Master Dubrovna: after that I can type lbsa and it appears [11:04] Andrew Hellershanks: Master, same thing here [11:04] Master Dubrovna: cool [11:04] Master Dubrovna: no idea why though [11:04] Master Dubrovna: lol [11:05] WhiteStar Magic: OKAY... Timezones and all, is it the 13th SOMEWHERE ? [11:05] Richardus Raymaker: lbsa plaza -> then lbsa in search works [11:05] Master Dubrovna: lol [11:05] Dolma Dollinger: Hmn After finding "Lbsa Plaza" once, search works fully [11:05] Master Dubrovna: yep [11:05] Dolma Dollinger: Also other searches [11:06] Wright Achievement Star: Find the other stars to complete this achievement. [11:06] WhiteStar Magic: ys, but search in map has a min of 3 chars to search on... so you shoudl be able to just put in lbs and get anything taht starts with lbs [11:06] Richardus Raymaker: remove that musquito from the software [11:06] Andrew Hellershanks will take a chance and commit the snapshot regions patch to his local copy of the repo and hope it won't mess up being able to pull from git later on [11:07]  WhiteStar Magic: I wonder if it maybe that LBSA did not register properly or something [11:07] WhiteStar Magic: if I put "fir" into Search it works and brings up regions [11:07] Region Showcase Kiosk: Received 31 regions from database. [11:08] WhiteStar Magic: same with "fre" [11:08] Armin Weatherwax: searching for sand also as expected [11:08] Richardus Raymaker: does lbsa run a special opensim version ? [11:08] paulie Flomar: MAp Search has always been a bit wonky. I seem to recall that is wont return results for strings that match characters after the first characters in a region, Example: searching for "bsa" wont return any results about "lbsa." [11:08] WhiteStar Magic: must be a quirk with LBSA [11:09] paulie Flomar: there was a Mantis on it years ago. Dont know if its improved. [11:09] paulie Flomar: I feel old. heh. [11:09] WhiteStar Magic: same Paulie, just tested that [11:09] UUID Speaker: Tore Vyper: 8f34bf2a-d069-95a4-3b28-568d54b9f90f [11:09] WhiteStar Magic: BSA == no result [11:10] Armin Weatherwax: WS i know: today is 07/06 - sum it up and voila [11:10] paulie Flomar: yeah [11:10] WhiteStar Magic: AHA !!! [11:10] Andrew Hellershanks: :-D [11:10] Andrew Hellershanks: 3:10pm -> total is 13 [11:11] Armin Weatherwax: dundunduuuuuuun [11:12] Armin Weatherwax: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g9WjcGdxuM [11:12] paulie Flomar: IArmin: lol! :) [11:13] Nebadon Izumi: hehe [11:13]  paulie Flomar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Kyi0WNg40 [11:15]  Dolma Dollinger: Hmm Seems this meeting ended? [11:15]  paulie Flomar: so, it seems that OSgrid is kinda "busted up" until .7, eh? [11:15]  Nebadon Izumi: well search might still be broken in 0.7 [11:15]  Nebadon Izumi: until someone fixes ossearch [11:15]  Nebadon Izumi: actually opensim is not broken [11:15]  Nebadon Izumi: ossearch is a external module [11:16]  Nebadon Izumi: that no one supports anymore [11:16]  paulie Flomar: Will .7 magically fix everything and give us all free kittens? [11:16]  Richardus Raymaker: OPENSIM WORKS PRETTY GOOD [11:16]  Pete Camino is Offline [11:16]  Richardus Raymaker: oops [11:16]  paulie Flomar: lol@RR as the region crashes. [11:16]  Nebadon Izumi: basiclly we need to rewrite ossearch [11:16]  Nebadon Izumi: which shouldnt be too hard [11:16]  Nebadon Izumi: its just finding the time to do it right [11:16] Nebadon Izumi: more difficult [11:16] Nebadon Izumi: hehe [11:17] WhiteStar Magic: couple of folks have mentioned doing stuff to it [11:17]  Richardus Raymaker: only 1 bag with time needed [11:17] Nebadon Izumi: i think fly-man- said he wasnt going to fix it until 0.7 was official [11:17] paulie Flomar: I'm not complaining, btw. :) I'm happy to have OSGrid at all. [11:17] Nebadon Izumi: but we'll see [11:17]  Nebadon Izumi: melanie_t might be able to make some changes to it too [11:18]  Nebadon Izumi: its just gotta get this other crap out of the way 1st [11:18]  Nebadon Izumi: just too much to do it all at once [11:19]  Nebadon Izumi: ok guys i gotta get going i need to go to DMV to get a new license [11:19]  Richardus Raymaker: ok. bye nebadon. [11:19]  Dolma Dollinger: Bye Nebadon [11:19]  Nebadon Izumi: see you guys, be back on IRC in a bit [11:19]  paulie Flomar: cyas! [11:19]  WhiteStar Magic: TTFN neb