Chat log from the meeting on 2020-10-06

Todays meeting was held in Hurliman Plaza because a bug in the code used to run Dev Outreach was causing viewers to crash.

[11:27] Kayaker Magic: Ubit, there is a rumor going around the Metaverse that you are going to remove "My Suitcase" from the HG code.

[11:27] Ubit Umarov: well guess master is currently broken

[11:27] Ubit Umarov: opps

[11:28] Andrew Hellershanks: This is better. I kept crashing shortly after arriving at the usual location.

[11:28] Andrew Hellershanks: Hello, everyone.

[11:28] Ubit Umarov: yeah master is currently broken.. ooops

[11:28] Ubit Umarov: fun my region with it works fine

[11:29] Ubit Umarov: but some unit tests fail

[11:29] Ubit Umarov: so.. something odd somewhere

[11:29] Andrew Hellershanks: Hm... this region is Gloebit enabled or was that the other location??

[11:29] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: could be something in the setup of that region

[11:29] Ubit Umarov: nahh bill didn't change that

[11:29] Ubit Umarov: its my code

[11:29] Ubit Umarov: this changes where low level

[11:30] Ubit Umarov: plenty of room for smoke

[11:30] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Hi Selby

[11:30] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: hi everyone

[11:30] Kayaker Magic: Hi Selby, you found the meeting!

[11:30] Andrew Hellershanks: Hello, Selby

[11:30] dj phil: HI

[11:30] Ada Radius: Hi Selby

[11:30] Ada Radius: Hi dj

[11:30] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Hi dj

[11:31] Ubit Umarov: odd crash seems to have no relation with the tests..

[11:31] Andrew Hellershanks: Was there any chat at the other location to be saved for todays gathering?

[11:31] Ubit Umarov: well fun fegug

[11:31] Ubit Umarov: and debug

[11:31] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: lsl bridge related crash?

[11:31] dj phil: "Tests" about experiences ?

[11:34] Kayaker Magic: Everyone still there?

[11:34] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: yep

[11:34] Ubit Umarov: well did a commit warning that master is broken

[11:35] dj phil: hg inventory things

[11:36] Ubit Umarov: well it may also be that Meeting is actually not updated

[11:36] dj phil: I guess we won't be able to use get / set environment until experiences things are implemented ...

[11:37] Ubit Umarov: will not

[11:38] Ubit Umarov: at most a ossl may be added for that

[11:38] Ubit Umarov: but its a big pain to add, and i don't like the ll

[11:38] Kayaker Magic: Experiences, isn't that some dumb SL thing?

[11:38] Ubit Umarov: well they mk some sense there

[11:39] Ubit Umarov: they avoid some requests for permissions

[11:39] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: pathfinding is the dumb thing

[11:39] Ubit Umarov: both are :)

[11:39] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: experiences makes a bit of sense

[11:39] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: could perhaps remove the need for RLV which is a major pain to support on the viewer

[11:39] dj phil: so ossl will bypass the permissions that are granted by experiences ... much like attach permission things

[11:39] Ubit Umarov: about set env i will wait for more sl changes on it

[11:40] Ubit Umarov: we may also have names collisions with lightshare scritps

[11:40] dj phil: hehe

[11:41] Ubit Umarov: well last code changes are on low level things

[11:41] dj phil: so ossl will bypass the permissions that are granted by experiences ... much like attach permission things.

[11:42] dj phil: oops sorry

[11:42] Ubit Umarov: store some strings as true UTF8 instead on .net/windoes UTF16

[11:42] dj phil: wrong copy/paste

[11:42] dj phil: lightshare has never been a nice code, according to what I have heard already in the past ...

[11:42] Ubit Umarov: and also change some LLSD seriealization acording

[11:43] Ubit Umarov: should mean a bite less work memory usage and less cpu

[11:43] Ubit Umarov: and a bit less also

[11:43] dj phil: i guess Ubit hate lightshare :)

[11:43] Ubit Umarov: lightshare is old news

[11:43] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: bit bite byte - hard to keep track

[11:43] Ubit Umarov: not talking about it

[11:44] Ubit Umarov: i mean it seems working fine

[11:44] Ubit Umarov: with the issues on some old WL viewers

[11:44] Ubit Umarov: that just do not change env

[11:44] dj phil: ha you try the old lightshare panel from meta7 already ?

[11:44] Ubit Umarov: what panel?

[11:45] dj phil: I will give you a panel

[11:45] Ubit Umarov: ok

[11:45] Ubit Umarov: ofc old things can be now broken because other changes

[11:46] dj phil: look my avi ubit

[11:46] Kayaker Magic: I thought liteshare was being replaced by EEP. So who cares about lighshare any more?

[11:46] dj phil: This one

[11:46] Ubit Umarov: yeah see u wearing something

[11:46] dj phil: i give you one

[11:46] Ubit Umarov: got it ty

[11:46] dj phil: yw

[11:46] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: it still needs to be completely removed from the viewer code, and it is a tangled mess

[11:47] Ubit Umarov: will try to look once i recover master :)

[11:47] dj phil: Broken man :)

[11:48] Ubit Umarov: well broken man has other meaning, ignoring you said that :p

[11:49] Ubit Umarov: and what other news do you have about opensim ?

[11:49] dj phil: In french I would have easier to make jokes :)

[11:49] Ubit Umarov: yeah translation my endup with other meaning

[11:49] Kayaker Magic: I heard a rumor that OpenSim was going to drop support of My Suitcase for HG

[11:49] Ubit Umarov: rumor kayaker

[11:50] Ubit Umarov: it has issues.. but drop is not planned

[11:50] dj phil: I have one new about rainbow ... send on IRC yesterday. It requires shadows enabled.

[11:50] Ubit Umarov: sl is going to change viewers self healing of inventory

[11:50] Ubit Umarov: lets see how it goes

[11:51] Ubit Umarov: the new rainbow is on master

[11:51] dj phil: working fine for me now, 100%

[11:51] Ubit Umarov: but those things do need proper settings on viewer graphics, ofc

[11:51] dj phil: exactly :)

[11:52] dj phil: I just hadn't activated it in my FS 6.4.x

[11:52] Ubit Umarov: on some crashes viewer sets all to basic

[11:53] dj phil: Yeah I don't know why he wasn't activated ... maybe just a silly oversight

[11:54] dj phil: It's solved, everything is cool now :)

[11:56] dj phil: No more black squares for the stars ... what happiness :)

[11:57] dj phil: I love the news

[11:57] dj phil: I switch to silent mode, listen to the others :)

[12:01] Andrew Hellershanks: wow We are at the top of the hour already today. We can keep going a little longer if you want due to the late start due to the issue with the other region.

[12:01] Kayaker Magic: I don't have any more questions for today.

[12:02] Andrew Hellershanks: Any one else have any questions/comments/issues for today?

[12:02] Kayaker Magic: OK, Send Ubit back to work fixing Master!

[12:03] Andrew Hellershanks: I don't see anyone typing so I'll close the meeting for today.

[12:03] Ada Radius: ty Andrew

[12:03] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: bye all

[12:03] Andrew Hellershanks: Thank you all for coming. See you again next week. WIth luck, back at the usual location.