Chat log from the meeting on 2010-07-06

[10:01] Richardus Raymaker: is there a meeting today ? and who's doing it ?

[10:01] Nebadon Izumi: hey guys

[10:01] Jacek Antonelli: Hi Neb

[10:02] Richardus Raymaker: hi nebadon, almost wanted to put you on the lost in action list :)

[10:02] Nebadon Izumi: heh ya move has me pretty busy

[10:02] Jacek Antonelli: Heh, it's only 2 minutes after the hour

[10:02] Richardus Raymaker: so we can rescue you from the boxes

[10:02] Richardus Raymaker: yes

[10:02] Richardus Raymaker: i think you cant see any cube more

[10:04] Nebadon Izumi: im not sure if anyone is showing up today or not

[10:04] Nebadon Izumi: i havent had much time for IRC or in world, couple more days of moving / unpacking / cleaning for me still

[10:05] Nebadon Izumi: see who shows up though

[10:05] Nebadon Izumi: was there a awg meeting today?

[10:05] Dolma Dollinger: Hi just saying hello *smile*

[10:05] Nebadon Izumi: hello Dolma

[10:05] Richardus Raymaker: you still do it fast, it would take me much longer

[10:05] Richardus Raymaker: hello dolma

[10:06] Dolma Dollinger: I am afraid the dev meeting is still way over my head

[10:06] WhiteStar Magic is Online

[10:07] Nebadon Izumi: heh well its good if you have things you need to ask devs about etc..

[10:07] Nebadon Izumi: about bugs or whatever

[10:07] Region Showcase Kiosk: Received 31 regions from database.

[10:08] Dolma Dollinger: Well apart from the new Hypergrid 1.5 it looks perfect

[10:08] Nebadon Izumi: though im not sure if any devs are coming today

[10:08] Nebadon Izumi: problems with HG 1.5?

[10:08] Dolma Dollinger: Well I might need a rolback

[10:09] Dolma Dollinger: Can detete stuff in "My sSuitcase"

[10:09] Dolma Dollinger: Cant delete

[10:09] Nebadon Izumi: ah ya you cant use SL2 apparantly

[10:09] Nebadon Izumi: i heard that breaks your inventory

[10:09] Dolma Dollinger: I use Imprudence

[10:09] Nebadon Izumi: so is My Suitcase part of HG?

[10:09] Dolma Dollinger: Yes

[10:10] Nebadon Izumi: i cant say i know anything about HG

[10:10] Nebadon Izumi: not even HG1

[10:10] Nebadon Izumi: never used it

[10:10] Dolma Dollinger: I am sure they will solve it

[10:10] Nebadon Izumi: ya

[10:10] Nebadon Izumi: is there a mantis?

[10:10] Dolma Dollinger: Hmm is it a real problem?

[10:10] Nebadon Izumi: sounds like it

[10:10] Nebadon Izumi whispers: hehe i dont know i have quite literally never used HG

[10:11] Nebadon Izumi: not only have I not set it up, ive not even HG teleported

[10:11] Richardus Raymaker: still fighting with voice. figured now out linux viewrs are a bit picky with voice

[10:11] Dolma Dollinger: I understood the software is being reviewed noe

[10:11] Nebadon Izumi: cool well as long as the devs know about the problem

[10:11] Nebadon Izumi: if there is no mantis report they might not know

[10:11] Dolma Dollinger: Ok I wait some days. Can Mantis it after all

[10:12] Nebadon Izumi: k ya it will be a while anyway before a lot of people are using 0.7 and HG 1.5 anyway

[10:12] Nebadon Izumi: right now its still hardcore testers only

[10:12] Nebadon Izumi: hehe

[10:12] Dolma Dollinger: Well 0.7 solves a lot of bugs and so

[10:13] Nebadon Izumi: hopefully next week i'll be back on track for more testing

[10:13] Nebadon Izumi: then we can start focusing on moving to 0.7 here

[10:13] Richardus Raymaker: a while. outside osgrid yes

[10:13] Nebadon Izumi: though that wont happen until after OSG3B

[10:13] Nebadon Izumi: just soo much going on

[10:13] Nebadon Izumi: we dont want to risk changing anything before the parties

[10:14] Dolma Dollinger: Well better wait for the stable version

[10:14] Nebadon Izumi: ya, 0.7 still isnt officially released yet

[10:14] Richardus Raymaker: descrive "stable" :P

[10:14] Nebadon Izumi: there are other issues too

[10:14] Dolma Dollinger: I suppose it will be a huge logistic operation for OSGrid

[10:14] Nebadon Izumi: mysql connector needs to be reverted

[10:14] Justin Clark-Casey is Online

[10:14] Nebadon Izumi: otherwsie there will be wide scale issues

[10:14] Dolma Dollinger: Done in 0.7RC2

[10:15] Nebadon Izumi: hey Justin

[10:15] Dolma Dollinger: They already did that

[10:15] Nebadon Izumi: ah thats good, i know RC2 was going to be done

[10:15] Justin Clark-Casey: hi nebadon, folks

[10:15] Dolma Dollinger: Hello Justin

[10:15] Nebadon Izumi: but the master tree is not

[10:15] Richardus Raymaker: hi justin

[10:15] Nebadon Izumi: they were talkling about only doing it in RC2

[10:15] Nebadon Izumi: but i think thier will be a full revert

[10:16] Nebadon Izumi: i dont think there is an easy fix to that problem

[10:16] Nebadon Izumi: the problem is in the MySQL connector itself

[10:16] Nebadon Izumi: not something we manage or control

[10:16] Nebadon Izumi: but really i hvaent been paying enough attention last few weeks to really know what the plan is right now

[10:17] Dolma Dollinger: Justin migh know?

[10:17] Justin Clark-Casey: what's that?

[10:17] Nebadon Izumi: the new mysql connector

[10:17] Nebadon Izumi: whats the status

[10:17] Nebadon Izumi: has it been reverted yet?

[10:17] Justin Clark-Casey: I might not be here for long - in fact, I'm going to have to drop off in 5 mins

[10:17] Justin Clark-Casey: not in master, but has been in rc2

[10:18] Nebadon Izumi: k

[10:18] Nebadon Izumi: ya thats what i thought

[10:18] Justin Clark-Casey: there's a permanent problem with the new one?

[10:18] Nebadon Izumi: not sure, the problem is not in our code

[10:18] Richardus Raymaker: Not time to try 0.7

[10:18] Nebadon Izumi: its in the new connector itself

[10:18] Nebadon Izumi: so unless we are planning on managing that ourselves with our own fix

[10:19] Nebadon Izumi: im not sure there is any other solution but to wait for MySQL team to fix it

[10:19] Nebadon Izumi: which could take months

[10:19] Richardus Raymaker: i heared somewhere its a ; that need to be removed

[10:19] Nebadon Izumi: since Oracle aquired MySQL

[10:19] Richardus Raymaker: aha, then it can take a while before its fixt

[10:19] Nebadon Izumi: patches are not being address

[10:19] Justin Clark-Casey: ho hum

[10:19] Nebadon Izumi: even prior to that Sun was not applying patches to mysql

[10:19] Nebadon Izumi: there are patches that are years old

[10:19] Nebadon Izumi: they havent touched

[10:19] Justin Clark-Casey: ok, unfortunately I need to pop off - got a friend round

[10:20] Nebadon Izumi: kk no Prob Justin

[10:20] Nebadon Izumi: thanks for swinging by

[10:20] Justin Clark-Casey: have a good week, everyone

[10:20] Richardus Raymaker: someone wants to sue oracle because some mysql stuff the keept not there promise

[10:20] Dolma Dollinger: Nice to meet you Justin

[10:20] Richardus Raymaker: bye JCC

[10:20] Justin Clark-Casey waves

[10:20] Richardus Raymaker: And the http based inventory is on ice to ?

[10:20] Dolma Dollinger: Hmm Winzenius did

[10:20] Nebadon Izumi: this weeks meeting is kind of a loss

[10:21] Nebadon Izumi: not sure Richardus

[10:21] Nebadon Izumi: Inventory and Assets do not change in 0.7

[10:21] Nebadon Izumi: its the same as 0.6.9

[10:21] Nebadon Izumi: i think assets has 1 extra feild

[10:21] Nebadon Izumi: but thats about it

[10:21] Nebadon Izumi: Xinvnentory has a lot of issues

[10:22] Richardus Raymaker: what i know is we jkepe old system yes

[10:22] Nebadon Izumi: im not sure just changing to Http would have any effect

[10:22] Justin Clark-Casey is Offline

[10:22] Nebadon Izumi: hard to say

[10:22] Nebadon Izumi: its not slated for the 0.7 release though

[10:22] Nebadon Izumi: i do know that

[10:22] Nebadon Izumi: maybe post-fixes or 0.8

[10:22] Nebadon Izumi: hard to say

[10:23] Nebadon Izumi: 0.8 should go alot faster than 0.7 did

[10:23] Nebadon Izumi: 0.7 was a really major refactor

[10:23] Richardus Raymaker: with http we dont have mysql anymore right ?

[10:23] Nebadon Izumi: no

[10:23] Nebadon Izumi: mysql is not going away

[10:23] Richardus Raymaker: hmm, to bad. that dont fix the mysql problem

[10:24] Nebadon Izumi: probably ever

[10:24] paulie Flomar is Online

[10:24] Nebadon Izumi: we'll always need a database

[10:24] Richardus Raymaker: im happy with mysql. only oracle is maby slow

[10:24] Nebadon Izumi: you can switch to MariaDB

[10:24] Nebadon Izumi: which is not controlled by Oracle

[10:24] Nebadon Izumi: its the original MySQL creators

[10:24] Richardus Raymaker: but also no phpmyadmin then

[10:24] Nebadon Izumi: no

[10:24] Nebadon Izumi: it works

[10:25] Nebadon Izumi: its a full MySQL implementation

[10:25] Nebadon Izumi: the commands are the same

[10:25] Nebadon Izumi: connectors are the same

[10:25] Nebadon Izumi: its MySQL source

[10:25] Nebadon Izumi: just more optimized with all the patches that sun / oracle is not applying

[10:25] Richardus Raymaker: but for now lets use mysql. its not usefull to change it

[10:25] Nebadon Izumi: its MYSQL

[10:25] Nebadon Izumi: the commands are 1:1

[10:25] Nebadon Izumi: you wouldnt know your not running mysql

[10:25] Nebadon Izumi: the daemon name is mysqld

[10:26] Nebadon Izumi: the command line tool is mysql and mysqldump

[10:26] Nebadon Izumi: it is the MySQL opensource code

[10:26] Nebadon Izumi: forked

[10:26] Richardus Raymaker: i see, http://phosphor-escence.blogspot.com/2010/02/installing-mariadb-on-opensuse-112.html

[10:26] Nebadon Izumi: http://mariadb.org/

[10:26] Nebadon Izumi: cool

[10:26] Nebadon Izumi: i have not had time to try it yet

[10:26] Richardus Raymaker: i see http://phosphor-escence.blogspot.com/2010/02/installing-mariadb-on-opensuse-112.html

[10:26] Jacek Antonelli: Hey Armin :)

[10:27] Nebadon Izumi: Fly-Man- did and he said its faster than oracle mysql

[10:27] Richardus Raymaker: hi armin

[10:27] Richardus Raymaker: questionlater for you

[10:27] Dolma Dollinger: Hi Armin

[10:27] Armin Weatherwax: hi :)

[10:27] Dolma Dollinger: Nice to meet you

[10:27] Nebadon Izumi: i do plan on testing MariaDB once i get my development servers hooked back up

[10:27] Nebadon Izumi: right now they are sitting here unplugged

[10:27] Richardus Raymaker: when i have time i need to play with mariadb on test server

[10:28] Nebadon Izumi: ya

[10:28] Nebadon Izumi: that would be great

[10:28] Nebadon Izumi: if you could test

[10:28] Nebadon Izumi: it needs more testing for sure

[10:28] Nebadon Izumi: you can join #maria on freenode

[10:28] Nebadon Izumi: they seem like a helpful bunch

[10:29] Dahlia Trimble is Online

[10:29] Richardus Raymaker: I need more time.. :O

[10:29] Richardus Raymaker: hi WS

[10:31] Nebadon Izumi: heh ya i could use more time too hehe

[10:32] paulie Flomar: :)

[10:32] Dahlia Trimble: hi :)

[10:32] paulie Flomar is Offline

[10:32] Richardus Raymaker: hi paulie, dahlia

[10:32] Dolma Dollinger: Hello Dahlia and Paulie

[10:33] paulie Flomar is Online

[10:33] Dahlia Trimble: where's everyone at? small crowd today

[10:33] Nebadon Izumi: ya not many showed up today

[10:33] Dolma Dollinger: Summer Holiday Season?

[10:33] Richardus Raymaker: yes.

[10:33] Nebadon Izumi: could be, also post holiday

[10:34] Nebadon Izumi: maybe everyone is swamped with RL work today

[10:34] Nebadon Izumi: i almost didnt come myself since im mid-moving

[10:34] Nebadon Izumi: but figured since i had a bit of time i would

[10:34] paulie Flomar: :)

[10:34] Dahlia Trimble: ewwww I hate moving

[10:34] Nebadon Izumi: ya

[10:34] Nebadon Izumi: i wish i was done honestly

[10:35] paulie Flomar: I had a free moment. Thought Id drop by.

[10:35] Nebadon Izumi: hey Paulie

[10:35] Richardus Raymaker: somewhere i wish it where time to move here. but not found anything new. need a bigger desk :P

[10:35] Dahlia Trimble: hiya Paulie :)

[10:35] paulie Flomar: wtfbbq

[10:35] paulie Flomar: i keep gettin thrown

[10:35] paulie Flomar: ..

[10:35] paulie Flomar: laggariffic

[10:35] Nebadon Izumi: thrown?

[10:36] Richardus Raymaker: but the moveing self and unpacking. eeuww.

[10:36] Richardus Raymaker: can be some hell

[10:36] paulie Flomar: ISnt OpenSim supposed to br perfected by now? DAng.

[10:36] Nebadon Izumi: hehe

[10:36] Dahlia Trimble: it's those lame developers

[10:36] paulie Flomar: Howdeh, Dahl. :)

[10:36] Nebadon Izumi: i just leveled your terrain out paulie

[10:36] Nebadon Izumi: there was a gigantic spike on Cameo Beach

[10:37] Nebadon Izumi: it was like 200m high spike

[10:37] paulie Flomar: Cameo is on some crappeh hardware right now. I apologize if its causin gissues fo rneighbors.

[10:37] Nebadon Izumi: no no problem at all

[10:37] Nebadon Izumi: looked like someone was experimenting with terrain editing

[10:37] Nebadon Izumi: i figured you didnt want it that way

[10:37] paulie Flomar: oh. lol. ok. thx. :)

[10:38] paulie Flomar: I cant seem to lock Cameo down. My choices never stay checked in the perm dialog.

[10:38] Nebadon Izumi: wierd

[10:38] paulie Flomar whispers: I imagine so. ^

[10:39] Nebadon Izumi: i bet you have multiple parcels in the land table

[10:39] Nebadon Izumi: lbsa plaza and a couple others were like that too

[10:39] Richardus Raymaker: mysql pauli ?

[10:39] Nebadon Izumi: i had to do some cleaning in the database to make it right again

[10:40] Jacek Antonelli: (Gotta run, take care all)

[10:40] Dahlia Trimble: bye :)

[10:40] Richardus Raymaker: bye jacek

[10:40] Nebadon Izumi: see you Jacek

[10:40] Armin Weatherwax: take care Jacek

[10:42] Lag hang in there!

[10:42] Dahlia Trimble: OMG a mouse!

[10:42] Nebadon Izumi: anyone else have anything thats not working right in their sims?

[10:42] Andrew Hellershanks: ack... i'm stuck

[10:43] Nebadon Izumi: ya it lagged out

[10:43] paulie Flomar: sorry. was afk for a bit. Cameo does run Mysql, yeah. Maybe some cleaning is in order. Or another look at the ini setup.

[10:43] Dahlia Trimble: big lag spurt

[10:43] Andrew Hellershanks: I tend to forget about the meetings. The IRC topic didn't say what time.

[10:43] WhiteStar Magic: concurrent logins get ya everytime

[10:43] Nebadon Izumi: its the same time every week

[10:44] Nebadon Izumi: 11am PST Tuesday

[10:44] Richardus Raymaker: yesterday it sems prims disapeard while edit. at least i not found them back for now

[10:44] Andrew Hellershanks: 11am? oh, ok. I should write that down somewhere.

[10:44] Nebadon Izumi: ya we'll try to get back on track next week normally i announce in IRC a bit ahead of time

[10:44] Nebadon Izumi: this week i didnt

[10:44] paulie Flomar: I dont do enough on Cameo to notice many issues, atm. HOpefully in future I will have more going on there.

[10:44] Nebadon Izumi: i wasnt even sure i was going to make it here myself

[10:45] paulie Flomar: Border crossings between CAmeo and Wright do seem problematic,tho.

[10:45] paulie Flomar: fwiw

[10:45] WhiteStar Magic: what version is Cameo

[10:46] Dahlia Trimble: I noticed my clothes never rezzed when I logged into WP, had to tp to my home region first

[10:47] paulie Flomar: Cameo is latest official download from osgrid.org.

[10:47] Andrew Hellershanks: Nebadon, its ok. I'm not always on the IRC channel at that time

[10:47] paulie Flomar: I try an dkeep Cameo updated to official releases.

[10:47] Andrew Hellershanks: Cameo?

[10:47] paulie Flomar: CAmeo beach. Mhy region, west of here.

[10:48] Richardus Raymaker: but, replaced router today to, i think the old one makes problems to

[10:48] Andrew Hellershanks: ok. THought you were talking some softaware

[10:48] paulie Flomar: Andrew: no worries. :)

[10:48] Andrew Hellershanks: That's what I get for coming in late.

[10:48] Andrew Hellershanks: hehe

[10:48] WhiteStar Magic: this plaza is using latest 6.9-post-fix

[10:48] paulie Flomar: We;re glad that anyone shows up at all for dev meetings, actually. :)

[10:49] Richardus Raymaker: does someone know why vpoice under linux dont talk with freeswitch good, and under windows viewer it works fine (both hippo)

[10:49] paulie Flomar: Whitestar, yeah, Cameo is on latest 6.9 post.

[10:49] WhiteStar Magic: couple snuck in and were gnarly there....

[10:49] Andrew Hellershanks: Richardus I'm still fighting with getting voice chat working with OpenSim 0.6.9

[10:49] paulie Flomar: RR: Ive never been able to get Freeswitch working in Linux. But I may just be simp,le.

[10:50] Nebadon Izumi: sorry reading back got a call

[10:50] Richardus Raymaker: i have it working in standalone. only my linux clients have problems to make voice connection (no button enabled) windows works fine

[10:50] Nebadon Izumi: water company

[10:50] Nebadon Izumi: hehe

[10:50] Richardus Raymaker: freeswitch runs as server under linux

[10:50] Nebadon Izumi: ya i will try to do a new release tonight

[10:50] Andrew Hellershanks: I was told that FS needs access to a db so that was possibly one problem I was having but I have another issue to deal with

[10:50] Nebadon Izumi: now i have most of the plazas updated

[10:50] paulie Flomar: Like the title, Dahlia. heh.

[10:50] Nebadon Izumi: i feel comfortable doing a new release

[10:51] Dahlia Trimble: lol

[10:51] Nebadon Izumi: after i go to the DMV to change my drivers license, i'll try to get a new release out later tonight

[10:51] Andrew Hellershanks: Nebadon, new release of ...?

[10:51] Nebadon Izumi: OpenSIM for OSGrid

[10:51] Nebadon Izumi: post-fixes

[10:51] Nebadon Izumi: our release is a bit behind the current

[10:51] paulie Flomar: Andrew, new official releases show up at osgrid.org.

[10:51] Andrew Hellershanks: ok. What revision will you be going to?

[10:52] Andrew Hellershanks: paulie, I get my OS from git

[10:52] Nebadon Izumi: whatever the master version of post-fixes is

[10:52] Andrew Hellershanks: k

[10:52] Nebadon Izumi: i think this region is running it

[10:52] Simulator Version v0.5 shouts: OpenSim 0.6.9 (Post_Fixes) d743a22: 2010-06-30 21:27:55 +0100 (Unix/Mono)

[10:52] Nebadon Izumi: ya

[10:52] paulie Flomar: Andrew: yeah, but latest trunk wont run well on osgrid. Osgrid regions need to stay behind on official.

[10:52] paulie Flomar: afaik

[10:52] Nebadon Izumi: ya

[10:52] Nebadon Izumi: use 0.6.9-post-fixes branch

[10:52] Nebadon Izumi: for OSgrid

[10:52] Nebadon Izumi: 0.7 wont start here

[10:53] Andrew Hellershanks: I'm on 12924 but should update. There was an issue re: some message can wind up going to the log multiple times

[10:53] paulie Flomar: we wait in hope. :)

[10:53] Dolma Dollinger: The last 0.6.9 post-fixes I ran was very good

[10:53] Nebadon Izumi: ya it wont be until after OSG3B probably sometime next month

[10:53] Nebadon Izumi: but we will probably be doing some limited testing before then

[10:53] Nebadon Izumi: right now i just cant say for sure how it will go down

[10:53] Nebadon Izumi: but its soon

[10:54] Nebadon Izumi: Dave is working on a Robust connector for SimianGrid Frontend

[10:54] Nebadon Izumi: that will replace the website

[10:54] UUID Speaker: Donzil Zenovka: fd1142c5-7c71-404a-03d4-1639a090c872

[10:54] paulie Flomar: btw, IM not sitting because my viewer seems to send my cam position to infinity when I sit.

[10:54] Dahlia Trimble: robust connector for simiangrid? arent they exclusive?

[10:54] Andrew Hellershanks: Whitestar, you mentioned in a bug report that 80% of regions in a grid weren't updating the datasnapshot?

[10:54] Nebadon Izumi: right now they are not compatible

[10:55] Nebadon Izumi: SimianGrid frontend is the web interface

[10:55] Dahlia Trimble: ah ok

[10:55] Nebadon Izumi: SimianGrid iteself is a complete Robust Replacement

[10:55] Simulator Version v0.5 shouts: OpenSim 0.6.9 (Post_Fixes) d743a22: 2010-06-30 21:27:55 +0100 (Unix/Mono)

[10:55] Nebadon Izumi: our goal is to one day move over to SimianGrid maybe

[10:55] paulie Flomar: IT is?

[10:55] Nebadon Izumi: if we outgrow Robust

[10:55] paulie Flomar: did not know that

[10:55] Nebadon Izumi: Robust has the issue of C# http services

[10:55] Nebadon Izumi: there may be a time when we outgrow its capabilities

[10:56] paulie Flomar: ...interresting...

[10:56] Nebadon Izumi: were just not sure

[10:56] Dahlia Trimble: does simiangrid support hypergrid?

[10:56] Nebadon Izumi: so were helping to develop Simiangrid for just that case

[10:56] Nebadon Izumi: not yet Dahlia

[10:56] Nebadon Izumi: but its far from complete

[10:56] Nebadon Izumi: it will eventually

[10:56] Nebadon Izumi: it will likely only support HG1.5 and Vwrap

[10:56] Penny Lane: What parts are currently operational?

[10:56] WhiteStar Magic: @ Andrew, sorry, I am also troubleshooting. Yes DataSnopShot is not working and has not for some time....

[10:57] Nebadon Izumi: most of the basic grid functions work

[10:57] Nebadon Izumi: in some areas its more complete than RObust

[10:57] Nebadon Izumi: like built in groups

[10:57] Nebadon Izumi: built in profiles

[10:57] Andrew Hellershanks: WS, odd. My testing so far with it shows its working (in my grid)

[10:57] WhiteStar Magic: ossearch the parser is not initiating anything and MANY MANY regions won;t even generate when they should

[10:57] Nebadon Izumi: other areas like Inventory its not as full featured yet

[10:57] Richardus Raymaker: how is the assets storage crow the last time ?

[10:57] Dahlia Trimble: I should update, I have an old simiangrid set up now

[10:57] Andrew Hellershanks: WS, is the database indicating that the time of last update is changing?

[10:57] WhiteStar Magic: this applies to 3RG and apparently here too as Neb & I spent a little time trying to figure it out

[10:58] Nebadon Izumi: ya the Robust version of ossearch is busted up good

[10:58] Nebadon Izumi: its not been worked on in months close to a year maybe more

[10:58] paulie Flomar: "busted up good." :) heh

[10:58] WhiteStar Magic: the ossearch DB for regions stays static

[10:58] WhiteStar Magic: not static for users etc

[10:58] Andrew Hellershanks: WS, other things to check is that you can pull up the data from a region using a web browser.

[10:58] Nebadon Izumi: ossearch is more 0.6.7/0.6.8

[10:59] Nebadon Izumi: it was never updated for 0.6.9 yet

[10:59] Richardus Raymaker: it seem you cant find lbsa anymore by typeing "lbsa" in map search,

[10:59] Nebadon Izumi: someone else said that

[10:59] Nebadon Izumi: but i dont have that problem

[10:59] Nebadon Izumi: which is wierd some people do some people dont

[10:59] Nebadon Izumi: i dunno whats up with that

[10:59] Dahlia Trimble: just tried it, failed for me too

[10:59] Richardus Raymaker: imprudence bug armin ?

[10:59] WhiteStar Magic: failed for me too

[10:59] Richardus Raymaker: what do you use whitestar ?

[10:59] Nebadon Izumi: wierd it works for me

[11:00] Nebadon Izumi: try searching for something that works

[11:00] Nebadon Izumi: then do it

[11:00] Nebadon Izumi: try searching for Wright Plaza

[11:00] Dahlia Trimble: Im using impridence

[11:00] Nebadon Izumi: then do Lbsa

[11:00] Nebadon Izumi: type full Wright Plaza

[11:00] Nebadon Izumi: once it returns then put just lbsa

[11:00] Nebadon Izumi: see if that works

[11:00] Armin Weatherwax: hm, not that I know of, Richardus

[11:00] Nebadon Izumi: i was searching earlier on map

[11:00] Andrew Hellershanks: you two are dealing with bigger grids than me

[11:00] Richardus Raymaker: no "lbsa" no result

[11:00] Nebadon Izumi: so bizzare

[11:00] Nebadon Izumi: its working for me

[11:00] Nebadon Izumi: lol

[11:00] WhiteStar Magic: weird, I type in "first" and all my regions appear

[11:00] Nebadon Izumi: i type just Lbsa and it zooms me to Lbsa Plaza

[11:00] WhiteStar Magic: type in "lbsa" and nada

[11:00] Nebadon Izumi: and has Lbsa Plaza in the list

[11:01] Nebadon Izumi: im using Hippo 0.6.3

[11:01] Nebadon Izumi: maybe imprudence is pickier?

[11:01] Dahlia Trimble: gotta run, bye all :)

[11:01] Nebadon Izumi: kk Dahlia, thanks for coming

[11:01] WhiteStar Magic: shoudl take > 3 chars and search on that string

[11:01] Master Dubrovna: Hippo 0.6.3 here and no lbsa on search

[11:01] Nebadon Izumi: is there an AWG meeting again soon?

[11:01] Nebadon Izumi: or was there one today even?

[11:01] Andrew Hellershanks: lbsa (all lowercase) comes up with nothing

[11:01] Nebadon Izumi: odd

[11:02] Nebadon Izumi: i cant imagine why it works for me

[11:02] Andrew Hellershanks: Hippo 0.6.3 for Linux

[11:02] Armin Weatherwax: searching for wright i get wright plaza, lbsa nothing

[11:02] Nebadon Izumi: but thats typical

[11:02] Dahlia Trimble is Offline

[11:02] Richardus Raymaker: with hippo i have the same problem nebadon. no result

[11:02] Nebadon Izumi: its always gonna work for the guy who has to fix it

[11:02] Nebadon Izumi: and no one else

[11:02] Master Dubrovna: lol

[11:02] WhiteStar Magic: LOL

[11:02] Nebadon Izumi: lol

[11:02] Andrew Hellershanks: hehe

[11:02] Richardus Raymaker: so its not imprudence

[11:03] WhiteStar Magic: Dr Dr this hurts, but I don;t feel it right now... Then 10 Mins after leaving Dr Office, hurts 10x more

[11:03] Master Dubrovna: Oh if I type lbsa plaza....then it shows

[11:03] Dolma Dollinger: Strange. After I found it once wirth the Full word I can now find it with the first word

[11:03] Andrew Hellershanks: I've got a patch I'll be submitting shortly to fix region type

[11:03] Master Dubrovna: after that I can type lbsa and it appears

[11:04] Andrew Hellershanks: Master, same thing here

[11:04] Master Dubrovna: cool

[11:04] Master Dubrovna: no idea why though

[11:04] Master Dubrovna: lol

[11:05] WhiteStar Magic: OKAY... Timezones and all, is it the 13th SOMEWHERE ?

[11:05] Richardus Raymaker: lbsa plaza -> then lbsa in search works

[11:05] Master Dubrovna: lol

[11:05] Dolma Dollinger: Hmn After finding "Lbsa Plaza" once, search works fully

[11:05] Master Dubrovna: yep

[11:05] Dolma Dollinger: Also other searches

[11:06] Wright Achievement Star: Find the other stars to complete this achievement.

[11:06] WhiteStar Magic: ys, but search in map has a min of 3 chars to search on... so you shoudl be able to just put in lbs and get anything taht starts with lbs

[11:06] Richardus Raymaker: remove that musquito from the software

[11:06] Andrew Hellershanks will take a chance and commit the snapshot regions patch to his local copy of the repo and hope it won't mess up being able to pull from git later on

[11:07] WhiteStar Magic: I wonder if it maybe that LBSA did not register properly or something

[11:07] WhiteStar Magic: if I put "fir" into Search it works and brings up regions

[11:07] Region Showcase Kiosk: Received 31 regions from database.

[11:08] WhiteStar Magic: same with "fre"

[11:08] Armin Weatherwax: searching for sand also as expected

[11:08] Richardus Raymaker: does lbsa run a special opensim version ?

[11:08] paulie Flomar: MAp Search has always been a bit wonky. I seem to recall that is wont return results for strings that match characters after the first characters in a region, Example: searching for "bsa" wont return any results about "lbsa."

[11:08] WhiteStar Magic: must be a quirk with LBSA

[11:09] paulie Flomar: there was a Mantis on it years ago. Dont know if its improved.

[11:09] paulie Flomar: I feel old. heh.

[11:09] WhiteStar Magic: same Paulie, just tested that

[11:09] UUID Speaker: Tore Vyper: 8f34bf2a-d069-95a4-3b28-568d54b9f90f

[11:09] WhiteStar Magic: BSA == no result

[11:10] Armin Weatherwax: WS i know: today is 07/06 - sum it up and voila

[11:10] paulie Flomar: yeah

[11:10] WhiteStar Magic: AHA !!!

[11:10] Andrew Hellershanks: :-D

[11:10] Andrew Hellershanks: 3:10pm -> total is 13

[11:11] Armin Weatherwax: dundunduuuuuuun

[11:12] Armin Weatherwax: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g9WjcGdxuM

[11:12] paulie Flomar: IArmin: lol! :)

[11:13] Nebadon Izumi: hehe

[11:13] paulie Flomar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Kyi0WNg40

[11:15] Dolma Dollinger: Hmm Seems this meeting ended?

[11:15] paulie Flomar: so, it seems that OSgrid is kinda "busted up" until .7, eh?

[11:15] Nebadon Izumi: well search might still be broken in 0.7

[11:15] Nebadon Izumi: until someone fixes ossearch

[11:15] Nebadon Izumi: actually opensim is not broken

[11:15] Nebadon Izumi: ossearch is a external module

[11:16] Nebadon Izumi: that no one supports anymore

[11:16] paulie Flomar: Will .7 magically fix everything and give us all free kittens?

[11:16] Richardus Raymaker: OPENSIM WORKS PRETTY GOOD

[11:16] Pete Camino is Offline

[11:16] Richardus Raymaker: oops

[11:16] paulie Flomar: lol@RR as the region crashes.

[11:16] Nebadon Izumi: basiclly we need to rewrite ossearch

[11:16] Nebadon Izumi: which shouldnt be too hard

[11:16] Nebadon Izumi: its just finding the time to do it right

[11:16] Nebadon Izumi: more difficult

[11:16] Nebadon Izumi: hehe

[11:17] WhiteStar Magic: couple of folks have mentioned doing stuff to it

[11:17] Richardus Raymaker: only 1 bag with time needed

[11:17] Nebadon Izumi: i think fly-man- said he wasnt going to fix it until 0.7 was official

[11:17] paulie Flomar: I'm not complaining, btw. :) I'm happy to have OSGrid at all.

[11:17] Nebadon Izumi: but we'll see

[11:17] Nebadon Izumi: melanie_t might be able to make some changes to it too

[11:18] Nebadon Izumi: its just gotta get this other crap out of the way 1st

[11:18] Nebadon Izumi: just too much to do it all at once

[11:19] Nebadon Izumi: ok guys i gotta get going i need to go to DMV to get a new license

[11:19] Richardus Raymaker: ok. bye nebadon.

[11:19] Dolma Dollinger: Bye Nebadon

[11:19] Nebadon Izumi: see you guys, be back on IRC in a bit

[11:19] paulie Flomar: cyas!

[11:19] WhiteStar Magic: TTFN neb